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Please use this as the official definition and list of missionaries going forward.

Missionary

A missionary is someone who traveled from their home church to another city or region to proclaim the gospel of Christ for the purpose of converting the hearers and establishing a church from the new converts. Missionaries often lived in the city or region for an extended period of time.

Your missionaries in play (or set-aside) have the added benefit of being part of the church you control with the most church members; there is no benefit in the case of a tie for the most. A missionary that becomes part of another church also retains its original church identifier(s).

The following Heroes are considered missionaries:

• Apollos
• Aquila
• Barnabas
• John
• Luke
• Mark
• Paul (when converted from Saul)
• Peter
• Philip the Evangelist
• Priscilla
• Silas
• Timothy
• Titus

Please note that Barsabbas has been omitted from this list intentionally. He was never intended to have the identifier "missionary" but the error wasn't caught before the card was sent to print. He has been added to the official errata list to correct our error.

So if I have Peter in play with 1 thessolonian and then put 2 Corinthian heroes in play peter would be a Jerusalem, thessolonian, Corinthian hero?

No, he would be a Jerusalem, Corinth hero.

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 21, 2015, 06:21:39 PM

So if I have Peter in play with 1 thessolonian and then put 2 Corinthian heroes in play peter would be a Jerusalem, thessolonian, Corinthian hero?

No, he would be a Jerusalem, Corinth hero.

Not according to the above definition.

Unless "original" only pertains to what is printed on the card.  However, if original only applies to printed identifiers that creates numerous other problems.

Quote from: Drrek on March 21, 2015, 06:34:45 PM

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 21, 2015, 06:21:39 PM

So if I have Peter in play with 1 thessolonian and then put 2 Corinthian heroes in play peter would be a Jerusalem, thessolonian, Corinthian hero?

No, he would be a Jerusalem, Corinth hero.

Not according to the above definition.

Unless "original" only pertains to what is printed on the card.  However, if original only applies to printed identifiers that creates numerous other problems.

Please elaborate on what problems you believe this causes

Just quickly answering off the top of my head, purple and red Peter do not have the missionary identifier printed on them. This means "original" being defined as printed identifiers presents challenges to working out the definition of "original".

Plenty of cards have gained "printed" identifiers that aren't printed on the card, like many, many prophets.  This is not an issue.

This has been the case for years

This literally means I need to keep an up-to date identifiers list with me at all tournaments in order to ensure they are all ruled correctly.

I understand this concern, really do.  But as pointed out, we have plenty of cards with non-printed identifiers (or even errata) that have to be tracked.  Some cards have been changed completely from their original wording through erratas, and some cards were printed when we didn't even put identifiers on the cards, but we still use 'if used by' cards with them without too much of an issue.

Since we are able to use any set in this game at any time, this sort of thing will always be in play, but I don't feel that it has had, or will have, as large of an impact as is being implied.