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Might of Angels (Wa) vs. Antiochus IV Epiphanes
« on: July 18, 2015, 07:19:44 PM »
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Might of Angels (Warriors):
Discard All evil characters in play having a New Testament reference on card.

Antiochus IV Epiphanes:
OT Greek/Syrian King
Reference: Josephus, The Wars of the Jews, Book 1, Chapter 1

Is Josephus considered an NT reference, so Antiochus is discarded by Might of Angels?  If it's not considered an NT reference, are the Emperors with a Josephus reference safe from Might of Angels?

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Re: Might of Angels (Wa) vs. Antiochus IV Epiphanes
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2015, 07:22:18 PM »
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Josephus is a NT reference, but AE4 is considered OT because of his identifier, so all the Emperors are NT. I'd say Might works, because while he is an OT character, he does have an NT reference which is all Might is looking for.
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Re: Might of Angels (Wa) vs. Antiochus IV Epiphanes
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2015, 12:20:26 AM »
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No, Josephus is not an "NT Reference" book.

Characters with a reference from Josephus are categorized based on their existence in relation to the birth of Christ.  Antiochus is an OT character who happens to be referenced in Josephus.

EDIT: Proof:

Quote from: The REG
N.T.
‘N.T.’ is an acronym for ‘New Testament’. The following 27 books are considered part of the New
Testament:
 Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, I Corithians, II Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians,
Philippians, Colossians, I Thessolonians, II Thessolonians, I Timothy, II Timothy, Titus,
Philemon, Hebrews, James, I Peter, II Peter, I John, II John, III John, Jude, and Revelation.
Cards with a reference from those books are N.T cards. Additionally, cards with a
historical reference from Josephus from a time after the birth of Christ are considered
N.T. cards.

O.T.
‘O.T.’ is an acronym for ‘Old Testament’. The following 39 books are considered part of the Old
Testament:
 Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, I Samuel, II
Samuel, I Kings, II Kings, I Chronicles, II Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Job, Psalms,
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai,
Zechariah, and Malachi. Cards with a reference from those books are O.T. cards.
Additionally, cards with a historical reference from Josephus from a time before the
birth of Christ are considered O.T. cards.
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Re: Might of Angels (Wa) vs. Antiochus IV Epiphanes
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2015, 11:01:26 PM »
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No, Josephus is not an "NT Reference" book.

Characters with a reference from Josephus are categorized based on their existence in relation to the birth of Christ.  Antiochus is an OT character who happens to be referenced in Josephus

Um... then what is this?

I believe the question wasn't whether she is NT, but whether her return would trigger.

Holy Spirit says "enters battle".  While it cannot trigger in-between abilities, it's ability has been triggered.  Even if she withdraws, you can still search for a fruit based on her entering, yes.

To the question of Josephus, that is considered NT for testament purposes.

Which was in response to this question:

Here's a question: Is Antiochus IV Epiphanes a NT hero because his reference is from Josephus or does the NT begin as soon as Malachai ends?

Which then resulted in this:


To the question of Josephus, that is considered NT for testament purposes.

Except for Antiochus IV Epiphanes

Oh right it's that guy we're talking about...always forget about him.  His identifier specifies that he is OT, which overrides normal testament rules.

That was just back in April. So is this a recent change or were you just slightly off back then? (not meant to be a criticism)
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Re: Might of Angels (Wa) vs. Antiochus IV Epiphanes
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2015, 11:13:46 PM »
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That was just back in April. So is this a recent change or were you just slightly off back then? (not meant to be a criticism)

I was wrong in that post, it is literally the next post in the referenced thread:


To the question of Josephus, that is considered NT for testament purposes.

Except for Antiochus IV Epiphanes

Oh right it's that guy we're talking about...always forget about him.  His identifier specifies that he is OT, which overrides normal testament rules.

The REG also clarifies this rather well on its own.  Josephus is not a book for one or the other testament.

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Re: Might of Angels (Wa) vs. Antiochus IV Epiphanes
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2015, 11:38:43 PM »
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Alrighty, just looking to clarify seeing as that thread was what I based my answer above on
Just one more thing...

 


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