Author Topic: MAJOR RULE CHANGES - In effect NOW. Tell everyone! (Read 40750 times)

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #225 on:** April 01, 2012, 08:16:29 PM »

@Alpal455--Well played, sirrah. Well played indeed.

Nameless · « **Reply #226 on:** April 01, 2012, 08:34:57 PM »

I hate #2. I have lost a lot of games with 3 Ls and SoG/NJ in my hand, but my opponent has not drawn souls and I lose.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #227 on:** April 01, 2012, 08:47:30 PM »

I love #2 I have won a lot of games with my opponent has 3 Ls and SoG in hand, but I have no souls out and he loses.

Seriously though, I love this rule because it hurts speed.

This rule helped speed some because now you want to get to your soul gen, but only the hopper instantly generates a lost souls. In a speed deck generators like TaS, Survivor, and even HT have to wait for a battle to be used.

Sog/NJ were usable instantly as long as you had souls in your territory. Now once you blow through your deck to get SoG/NJ you still have to wait for the opponent's deck to bring lost souls out, making less incentive for speed since there is no instant gratification.

SoG/NJ/Burial speed blocks. With dom cap hardly anyone uses burial, and SoG/NJ can't be used for that extra block as easily making it harder for speed to get that extra block it needs.

Conclusion:

Rule #2 does hurt speed, maybe not that significantly but frankly I'll take whatever I can get.

lp670sv · « **Reply #228 on:** April 01, 2012, 09:05:07 PM »

Quote from: alpal455 on April 01, 2012, 04:35:46 PM

All of these new rules are restricting the game to much, these rules remind me of our government, taking our freedoms away.

robm · « **Reply #229 on:** April 01, 2012, 09:33:25 PM »

At least we don't have to worry about worshiping God in secret or being persecuted for our faith.

We have a lot more freedom, then most countries.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #230 on:** April 01, 2012, 09:38:04 PM »

cookie monster · « **Reply #231 on:** April 02, 2012, 05:20:30 PM »

I do not think that these are are restricting, but I also do not think these rules are making this game more simple for beginners.

alpal455 · « **Reply #232 on:** April 02, 2012, 05:58:58 PM »

Quote from: Red on April 01, 2012, 07:56:42 PM

A rebuttal to Alpal.

1:nothing to refute.

2:It stops speed. Simply. And for the record SoG can't rescue a few lost souls anyway(*/4 NT only) Also Any does not mean All, and Any can be restricted/protected from and insteaded.(examples include any card that lets you choose a target and can be restricted/protected/insteaded.)

3:Would someone PLEASE take that down. It's confusing people. And yes it's a horrible idea.

4:Do you understand why Mayhem was played anyway? Anyone who had it in his deck for just FTM was an idiot. Mayhem screws with hands, and gens souls. That was it's intended purpose and it still does that.

Final statement: These rules do not restrict our freedoms as players, instead the rules increase our freedoms. due to making balanced decks viable again.

Thanks for this it clears some stuff up for me!

Scoobug · « **Reply #233 on:** April 11, 2012, 03:10:31 PM »

Wait! Is this just for tournaments or for the entire game of Redemption?

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #234 on:** April 11, 2012, 04:26:15 PM »

Quote from: Scoobug on April 11, 2012, 03:10:31 PM

Wait! Is this just for tournaments or for the entire game of Redemption?

Well, if it's tournaments, it may as well be the entire game. People are welcome to play by house rules, however, official tournaments should be just that - official, and thus, using official rules.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #235 on:** April 11, 2012, 04:32:44 PM »

Quote from: Scoobug on April 11, 2012, 03:10:31 PM

Wait! Is this just for tournaments or for the entire game of Redemption?

These Message Boards post official rules that supercede any previously printed rulebooks, so yes these changes are for the entire game. However, as Chronic mentioned, if you are just playing with friends, you can play however you like. For my playgroup, we like to mix Lord of the Rings and Kingdom Hearts cards in with our Redemption cards. It was quite exciting to use Frodo to rescue a Lost Soul from my opponent who was blocking with Red Dragon (who was not immune).

cookie monster · « **Reply #236 on:** April 12, 2012, 01:33:08 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 11, 2012, 04:32:44 PM

Quote from: Scoobug on April 11, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
Wait! Is this just for tournaments or for the entire game of Redemption?

These Message Boards post official rules that supercede any previously printed rulebooks, so yes these changes are for the entire game. However, as Chronic mentioned, if you are just playing with friends, you can play however you like. For my playgroup, we like to mix Lord of the Rings and Kingdom Hearts cards in with our Redemption cards. It was quite exciting to use Frodo to rescue a Lost Soul from my opponent who was blocking with Red Dragon (who was not immune).

That sounds like a interesting way to play, I should try that with somebody

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #237 on:** April 12, 2012, 01:34:54 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 11, 2012, 04:32:44 PM

Quote from: Scoobug on April 11, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
Wait! Is this just for tournaments or for the entire game of Redemption?

These Message Boards post official rules that supercede any previously printed rulebooks, so yes these changes are for the entire game. However, as Chronic mentioned, if you are just playing with friends, you can play however you like. For my playgroup, we like to mix Lord of the Rings and Kingdom Hearts cards in with our Redemption cards. It was quite exciting to use Frodo to rescue a Lost Soul from my opponent who was blocking with Red Dragon (who was not immune).

This actually explains a lot about the Florida meta.

No, I kid, that actually sounds like a neat idea.

Ammian · « **Reply #238 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:08:28 PM »

Quote from: Chris on April 12, 2012, 01:34:54 PM

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 11, 2012, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: Scoobug on April 11, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
Wait! Is this just for tournaments or for the entire game of Redemption?

These Message Boards post official rules that supercede any previously printed rulebooks, so yes these changes are for the entire game. However, as Chronic mentioned, if you are just playing with friends, you can play however you like. For my playgroup, we like to mix Lord of the Rings and Kingdom Hearts cards in with our Redemption cards. It was quite exciting to use Frodo to rescue a Lost Soul from my opponent who was blocking with Red Dragon (who was not immune).

No, I kid, that actually sounds like a neat idea.

That sounds like a great idea. Care to explain the rules?

crustpope · « **Reply #239 on:** November 19, 2013, 11:10:54 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 15, 2012, 08:02:09 PM

Yes, I was there for the Highway errata.

Dont even get me started on this one..... -_-

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #240 on:** February 13, 2014, 10:36:28 PM »

I am starting a collection right now with a $10 donation for the first host to limit T1 decks to 2 good and 2 evil Doms at a Regionals or Nats. Would anyone care to join me?

What's the point of having an optional rule if no one ever opts to use it?

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #241 on:** February 13, 2014, 11:07:58 PM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on February 13, 2014, 10:36:28 PM

I am starting a collection right now with a $10 donation for the first host to limit T1 decks to 2 good and 2 evil Doms at a Regionals or Nats. Would anyone care to join me?

What's the point of having an optional rule if no one ever opts to use it?

For local/districts I could see it but Regional/Nationals you want the widest audience possible so adding optional rules (Such as rescuers choice for t1) hurts the attendance for larger events.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #242 on:** February 14, 2014, 07:47:08 AM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on February 13, 2014, 11:07:58 PM

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on February 13, 2014, 10:36:28 PM
I am starting a collection right now with a $10 donation for the first host to limit T1 decks to 2 good and 2 evil Doms at a Regionals or Nats. Would anyone care to join me?

What's the point of having an optional rule if no one ever opts to use it?
For local/districts I could see it but Regional/Nationals you want the widest audience possible so adding optional rules (Such as rescuers choice for t1) hurts the attendance for larger events.

Why would attendance suffer? Are you saying you think that players who would normally go to Regionals/Nationals would choose not to attend if (for example) rescuers choice were being used in t1?

P.S. I'm bumping my donation to $25 if this is done at Nationals.

Redoubter · « **Reply #243 on:** February 14, 2014, 08:29:29 AM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on February 14, 2014, 07:47:08 AM

Why would attendance suffer? Are you saying you think that players who would normally go to Regionals/Nationals would choose not to attend if (for example) rescuers choice were being used in t1?

I tend to agree with this logic. Some people may decide a Local or District isn't worth bothering with if they have to adjust their fine-tuned decks, but there are only so many States/Regionals, and only one Nats. If they are going to go, the addition of optional rules (with enough advanced notice) would not deter 99% from still attending. I know I am not in favor of going restricted (I like playing with every dom as a T2 player, thankyouverymuch), but I would be silly to decide not to go to the States/Regional nearest me if they implemented the restricted dom rule.

I'll throw you $5 for the pot

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #244 on:** February 14, 2014, 09:18:24 AM »

The game would be so freaking broke if this was a rule... let's do it

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