Author Topic: MAJOR RULE CHANGES - In effect NOW. Tell everyone! (Read 40667 times)

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #125 on:** March 16, 2012, 02:54:32 PM »

Quote from: MitchRobStew on March 16, 2012, 02:50:16 PM

T2 games will be shorter without the SoG block.

Yeah, that's kind of disappointing. I was just starting to play around with Altar of Ahaz in t2 2p, but now there's no way that can be decent. Still good in multi (and SOG can still be used as a block in multi).

Red Warrior · « **Reply #126 on:** March 16, 2012, 03:04:59 PM »

You're right Mitch. But overall T2 got minimally affect by this rule change. All the doms you want (in a play style where not many of the doms are used anyway)... 1 free block taken away from a game that involves 10+ battles... FTM? Type 2? lol

theselfevident · « **Reply #127 on:** March 16, 2012, 03:07:13 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on March 16, 2012, 01:16:25 PM

Maybe we'll have a big tournament in the NW this year after all!

It would be nice to have a North West tourney, how can I help?

MitchRobStew · « **Reply #128 on:** March 16, 2012, 03:16:06 PM »

Quote from: Red Warrior on March 16, 2012, 03:04:59 PM

You're right Mitch. But overall T2 got minimally affect by this rule change. All the doms you want (in a play style where not many of the doms are used anyway)... 1 free block taken away from a game that involves 10+ battles... FTM? Type 2? lol

An opponent actually got a ftm against me at the t2 only lol..... But I recovered with a second turn Mayhem, lol. But I agree doesn't happen as much. But yeah that one block can sometime extend the game a ton, I mean I lost one game at nats where my opponent sog blocked me w/o nj and came back to beat me 3 turns later. But yeah I agree there is a much bigger impact on T1. I definitely need to make it down to MO this year Joey.

CactusRob · « **Reply #129 on:** March 16, 2012, 03:17:25 PM »

I just edited Bryon's original post. Regarding dominants in the first round. I have decided, with your collectively help, to only errata Mayhem so that it now reads:
If it is not the first round, each player must shuffle hand to draw six.

Ryupeco11 · « **Reply #130 on:** March 16, 2012, 03:37:24 PM »

thank you Rob for that! ^_^ I'm also very glad and thankful you take all our opinions into account regarding these decisions. Thanks again for all your hard work! ^_^

stefferweffer · « **Reply #131 on:** March 16, 2012, 04:05:31 PM »

Quote from: CactusRob on March 16, 2012, 03:17:25 PM

I just edited Bryon's original post. Regarding dominants in the first round. I have decided, with your collectively help, to only errata Mayhem so that it now reads:
If it is not the first round, each player must shuffle hand to draw six.

Splendid. This will be received by our local playgroup much better. Thanks for listening.

Incidentally, will there be a small section in the next rulebooks that mentions the errata on Mayhem and A New Beginning (and any other errata cards I can't think of right now)? This was a very helpful part of the LOTR TCG Comprehensive rules.

STAMP · « **Reply #132 on:** March 16, 2012, 04:36:20 PM »

Quote from: theselfevident on March 16, 2012, 03:07:13 PM

Quote from: STAMP on March 16, 2012, 01:16:25 PM

Maybe we'll have a big tournament in the NW this year after all!

It would be nice to have a North West tourney, how can I help?

If we have one it would be in the Salem, OR, area. I'd do most of the work. Being relatively new, you should come for play and fellowship.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #133 on:** March 16, 2012, 04:39:02 PM »

Holy Grail, Hormah, That Assyrian card, Split Alter, Highway, Grapes and A Child is Born.

Master KChief · « **Reply #134 on:** March 16, 2012, 04:40:45 PM »

New Beginning.

Jmbeers · « **Reply #135 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:00:23 PM »

Quote from: CactusRob on March 16, 2012, 03:17:25 PM

I just edited Bryon's original post. Regarding dominants in the first round. I have decided, with your collectively help, to only errata Mayhem so that it now reads:
If it is not the first round, each player must shuffle hand to draw six.

Thank you for listening to our input and for your interest in players as a whole.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #136 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:06:37 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 16, 2012, 04:40:45 PM

New Beginning.

Steffer already mentioned ANB.

JSB23 · « **Reply #137 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:31:08 PM »

Ban TGT and Uzzah.

I can't think of any other cards (except maybe one) with more failed counters than these two.

theselfevident · « **Reply #138 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:41:42 PM »

Quote from: JSB23 on March 16, 2012, 05:31:08 PM

Ban TGT and Uzzah.

I can't think of any other cards (except maybe one) with more failed counters than these two.

I'm not one for irata's but TGT should be toned down with an erata- "If opponent has more redeemed Lost Soul(s) than you, then Salome, Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Peter, John, and Mary the mother of James ignore all evil brigades that do not have at least two Characters in play.

JSB23 · « **Reply #139 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:44:55 PM »

Quote from: theselfevident on March 16, 2012, 05:41:42 PM

I'm not one for irata's but TGT should be toned down with an erata- "If opponent has more redeemed Lost Soul(s) than you, then Salome, Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Peter, John, and Mary the mother of James ignore all evil brigades that do not have at least two Characters in play or opponent's hand.

That would kill single character defenses as intended while not harming actual defenses.

theselfevident · « **Reply #140 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:53:23 PM »

Quote from: JSB23 on March 16, 2012, 05:44:55 PM

Quote from: theselfevident on March 16, 2012, 05:41:42 PM
I'm not one for irata's but TGT should be toned down with an erata- "If opponent has more redeemed Lost Soul(s) than you, then Salome, Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Peter, John, and Mary the mother of James ignore all evil brigades that do not have at least two Characters in play or opponent's hand.
That would kill single character defenses as intended while not harming actual defenses.

I think if you had both conditions it would complete nerf TGT, but 1 or the other would tone it down. either allow for characters in hand to be included or if your opponent is winning on soul count. Both kills it hardcore... that's just my 2 cents. (like I said I really don't like errata's but in the case of TGT, I would make an exception)

Master KChief · « **Reply #141 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:55:38 PM »

Quote from: theselfevident on March 16, 2012, 05:41:42 PM

Quote from: JSB23 on March 16, 2012, 05:31:08 PM
Ban TGT and Uzzah.

I can't think of any other cards (except maybe one) with more failed counters than these two.

I'm not one for irata's but TGT should be toned down with an erata- "If opponent has more redeemed Lost Soul(s) than you, then Salome, Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Peter, John, and Mary the mother of James ignore all evil brigades that do not have at least two Characters in play.

I was actually thinking of this exact same errata the other day in my head. How odd.

JSB23 · « **Reply #142 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:59:10 PM »

Ah sorry, I meant that to be an "or." two characters in play or two cards in hand.

theselfevident · « **Reply #143 on:** March 16, 2012, 06:01:00 PM »

I think the new Rulebook should include information on erata's and where you can find out about them. So that players not on the boards can find out about them. I had no idea that cards were being rewritten before I came to the boards this last year. Total shocker!!! I think it would have helped me to understand what the boards are all about and eased me into the fold a little better. =D

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #144 on:** March 16, 2012, 06:30:37 PM »

As for the rules changes I'm not particularly opposed to them, at least not yet, I'll have to see how they play out.

But for TGT, I had a brilliant idea of what Garden Tomb should have said, however I cannot remember it, but it was likely a condition having to do with your opponent having multiple brigades in play.

Something like "If your opponent has 2 or more evil brigades in play, <Garden Tomb Characters> ignore evil brigades with less than 2 evil characters in play" however this seems less brilliant than I remember so I'm not sure.

robm · « **Reply #145 on:** March 16, 2012, 07:01:57 PM »

Rob,
Will Son of God, And NJ also recieve erratas, Such as "Rescue any Lost Soul in Opponents' Land of Bondage." since it currently says "any lost soul in play" on it.

Or is this not necessary?

Bryon · « **Reply #146 on:** March 16, 2012, 07:03:27 PM »

It is not neccesary, just like it is not necessary to errata Jacob's Ladder. You simply cannot rescue a lost soul in your Land of Bondage.

robm · « **Reply #147 on:** March 16, 2012, 07:23:03 PM »

was an intro prep phase considered? This would have eliminated the need to erata mayhem I would think. Although it would change the first turn a little.

LordZardeck · « **Reply #148 on:** March 16, 2012, 11:15:40 PM »

although I know nobody will care of my opinion, and I know it won't change anything, in my opinion this is stupid. Rescuing your own LS has always been a very large part of Redemption strategy. Furthermore, this only hurts players who refuse to use decks that are not "popular" (meta I believe it's called), as they never really need the Dom's anyway. For the rest of us, they are very much so needed.

Master KChief · « **Reply #149 on:** March 16, 2012, 11:25:47 PM »

Dom cap + not able to rescue your own lost souls balances the meta incredibly. It makes every single player reevaluate which is more important in regards towards Dom selection, defense, and lost soul generators. Before yesterday it did not take me much thought into building a top tier deck. I now actually find myself having to think about different scenarios and possibilities.

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Author Topic: MAJOR RULE CHANGES - In effect NOW. Tell everyone! (Read 40667 times)

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