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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: browarod on June 11, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
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What details about a character fall under the "identifier" heading? Do testament, gender, species, and the like count as identifiers, or just unique/generic, civilization, and role? I know they are listed under "Identifiers" in the REG, but I'm wondering specifically for gameplay targeting purposes.
If I wanted to refer to a group of people by role or civilization identifier (like musician or Assyrian) but not by gender, species, testament, etc., is there a way I could word it?
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I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. "If used by a Musician," is a proper way to word such abilities. Does that help?
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1.) Yes, those are all identifiers.
2.) I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do here...
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I think he's more asking for an ability like "discard all musicians in battle" or something along those lines and is unsure if its the same as "discard all nt heroes in battle".
I don't wee why it would be any different.
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Here's what I'm referring to:
Workers Together
[Rainbow GE | 3/3 | 2 Corinthians 6:1]
If used by a hero that shares an identifier with at least 4 other of your heroes, interrupt the battle and return up to 3 of your cards in set aside or removed from the game to their previous location(s). Cannot be negated.
I don't want it to work if you just have 4 humans, I want the benefit to work only if you're using a theme like role or civilization, but I don't know how to refer to more than one but less than all identifiers.
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You would probably have to specify, "if used by a hero who shares the same profession, ethnicity, or position as 4 of your other heroes"...
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There's no current way to do that without elaborate wording.
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I figured as much, kinda sad.
Angel, human, and demon: would those be races? Species? I'm not sure what to call them.
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I think it might be easiest to list exceptions.
If used by a hero that shares an identifier with at least 4 other of your heroes except human, angel, testament, or gender.....
It adds a little length to it but I think it is usable and basically covers what you want.
P.S. you can't have an ability that returns cards removed from the game.
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P.S. you can't have an ability that returns cards removed from the game.
Why not? Cards break game rules, that's what they're for.
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P.S. you can't have an ability that returns cards removed from the game.
Why not? Cards break game rules, that's what they're for.
Even if you can (and I think you can) there should be a way to keep certain things gone, discard hardly means anything anymore.
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P.S. you can't have an ability that returns cards removed from the game.
Why not? Cards break game rules, that's what they're for.
....sometimes. Just ask Split Altar.
*pays into jar*
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@Smokey - My making one card that lets you maybe get cards back from rfg (if you even have any cards there) does not affect, in any way, the impact of discard on the game.
@Kittens - LOL.
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@Smokey - My making one card that lets you maybe get cards back from rfg (if you even have any cards there) does not affect, in any way, the impact of discard on the game.
@Kittens - LOL.
I think you misunderstood my point.
what I meant was removed cards should stay removed since discarded cards are so easy to recur, and remove cards usually have a high cost.
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Faith as a Mustard Seed has a high cost?
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Faith as a Mustard Seed has a high cost?
No, but it isn't very useful ;D
(Limited target range ftl)
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JiP on my Sadds isn't a "high cost"
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Removing your own side of battle from the game is a high cost in absolute terms. The fact that you're using it with rather lame characters against your opponents better characters is unrelated to the cost/effect of JiiP itself.
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The point of removal from the game is ensure that removed cards can never be used again in the game. That is why cards like The Destroyer and Wickedness Removed remove themselves, since we want to make sure they don't get reused.
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The point of posting the card was to ask how to word the first part, not a lecture on "remove from the game means remove from the game." Redemption is literally the only card game I know of that is still on that bandwagon, lol.
Also, The Destroyer wouldn't be recurrable with my card (the way I intend it) anyway unless you splashed him into a theme deck for some odd reason.
EDIT: I really don't see a reason to leave this open. My question was answered.