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IDK, I just know that demons can't be converted, so I think your right.

I would agree with ChristianSoldier. I think this falls under a "do as much as you can" scenario so you can heal but fizzle converting, or vice versa.

So the place would fizzle as well since it is to be placed on the converted hero, yes?

Yes, for it to be placed the character has to be a hero.

By that logic you could even place this one of your heroes.

Yes, as long as that hero is healable, it is a legal target.  That was part of the intention of the card when it was designed, and why it was left as "character" instead of "evil character."

EDIT: RULING CHANGED

After discussing legal targets, the Elders have determined that the original ruling given here is going to be reversed:

If played as a Heal, there must be a 'healable' target, as per the definition of Heal in the REG.

However, if played as a TC enhancement in your prep/discard phase, or as an enhancement played normally in battle, it may target a character that is not healable, and you 'do as much as you can' with the ability (even if they are not able to be healed).

Please post if you have any questions!

Can you change the brigade of a King of Tyrus to gray mid battle since demons don't convert? Can he also be healed and maintained as an evil character using Love similarly to Torment?

Can you (in example) change Thomas' brigade to any other single brigade color mid battle after playing a purple enhancement then play another color enhancement on him after Love?

Thank you for this clarification!

For 1, I believe he was asking whether he could heal then change the brigade of the demon while still keeping it an EC, but Love specifies conversion to a hero. So even if he weren't a demon, it still wouldn't work.

Praeceps is correct on all counts.  Love does not say "convert your character to a brigade of your choice," it specifies "convert your character to a Hero of any brigade."  While you may be 'doing as much as you can', it specifies that any brigade converted to must be a good brigade, so you can't change the evil brigade of an evil character without it converting to a hero (and, as noted, demons are a no-go for conversion).

Also correct that converting to a different brigade in battle means the numbers on played enhancements (unless they are weapons or placed) go away, since those enhancements are discarded (but not negated) due to there being no character of matching brigade in battle.

To answer Praeceps' question about the effect on enhancements, see above where the ability is not negated (as it was still played on a purple hero).  Unless they were interrupted/suspended (since they could not reactivate per the rules of interrupt), their abilities still completed and/or persist through the end of phase (unless otherwise specified).