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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: thestrongangel on December 27, 2008, 10:29:25 AM
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Is Lampstand of the Sanctuary protected from DoN?
Lampstand-Protect all cards not in battle from Evil Dominants.
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yes its protected
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I agree with Caleb. LotS is a "card not in battle" and DoN is an "evil dominant." DoN cannot attempt to negate Lampstand because of the "protect."
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Protection is hardcore! >:(
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+1 That is why LuG is still even used....
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yes its protected
I know that is how it is played and how it has been ruled. I'm pretty sure that was also the intent of the card. It is also how I think it should be played.
However, I'm noticing an apparent contradiction here. In the massive debates over Protection of Angels, it seems like they settled on the rule that negate always trumps protect or in other words, you can't protect from negate. The only protection from negate is to have an "can't be interrupted, prevented, or negated" ability. Since Lampstand does not have that status then why would it be an exception to this rule?
So I think the proper ruling would be that DoN does negate Lampstand but of course that leads me back to my first paragraph.
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The Schaef addressed that concern here. (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=3482.0)
Short version, DoN discards an Art, and negates the Art it discarded. Since Lampstand is protected from evil Dominants, it cannot be discarded, and since no Artifact was discarded, then no Artifact can be negated.
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To expound Gabe's quote, the SA of Destruction of Nehushtan is:
Discard one active Artifact in play. Artifact's ability is negated.
There are two sentences. The second sentence is contingent upon completion of the first sentence (i.e. [That] Artifact's ability...). Since the first sentence (discard the artifact) cannot target Lampstand, the second sentence never becomes relevant.
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Yeah, I forgot about that thread :sleepy: Probably because I never think of DoN like that. I always think of the abilities happenning together and they would be interchangeable in order but if we're going to be reeaaalllly picky then I suppose that is the correct technical interpretation. :P It is amazing how often I'm sure of the ability on a card and forget some small detail in the wording. Of course there is the Reg but why would I look it up? It'd be like looking up SoG. :doh: