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Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« on: June 22, 2010, 12:33:22 PM »
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I just have a couple inquiries to make sure that I am playing correctly, Lol.  ;)



1) After putting a lost soul in a site, am I allowed to later move into a different site? If so, is there a specifed time to do so?

The reason why I ask is because I have heard that you can use your own sites to gain access to other sites.
For example, if I wanted to get accesss to purple site I could use one of my own purple sites, and  bring it into battle with me for my rescue attempt. Therefore, I might have to take a lost soul out of that site to use it for access. I am not sure if that is true, so correct if I am wrong. =)

2) Is the phrase, "Take any hero prisoner" considered a capture enhancement?

For instance, I am blocking with Captian of the Temple Guard, and I play Net on him. Is the enhancement therefore protected from being negated since it was played on CotTG?

3) Also, how do you free a captured hero that is not being treated as a lost soul? Is it only by an enhancement or can you make a rescue attempt to free him?

4) After capturing a hero that is not being treated as a lost soul, are you able to put him in a site? (If the above question is answered as a yes to be able to rescue him.)

If you guys can help, it would be most appreciated!  ;D

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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 12:45:43 PM »
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1) After putting a lost soul in a site, am I allowed to later move into a different site? If so, is there a specifed time to do so?

No. Once an LS is in a Site, it stays there unless: a) It is rescued b) An SA says to remove it c) An SA removes the site from the LoB leaving the LS

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The reason why I ask is because I have heard that you can use your own sites to gain access to other sites.
For example, if I wanted to get accesss to purple site I could use one of my own purple sites, and  bring it into battle with me for my rescue attempt. Therefore, I might have to take a lost soul out of that site to use it for access. I am not sure if that is true, so correct if I am wrong. =)

Unfortunately, if you want to use an occupied site for access, you must first remove the LS through one of the ways listed above.

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2) Is the phrase, "Take any hero prisoner" considered a capture enhancement?

For instance, I am blocking with Captian of the Temple Guard, and I play Net on him. Is the enhancement therefore protected from being negated since it was played on CotTG?

Yes. Take any hero prisoner = Capture any Hero

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3) Also, how do you free a captured hero that is not being treated as a lost soul? Is it only by an enhancement or can you make a rescue attempt to free him?

All captured heroes are treated as Lost Souls unless they go somewhere else like Raider's Camp or Demonic Stronghold. They get released per the ability on the card, or another card that releases captured heroes (like I am Redemption).

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4) After capturing a hero that is not being treated as a lost soul, are you able to put him in a site? (If the above question is answered as a yes to be able to rescue him.)

Like said above, all captured heroes are treated as Lost Souls except for the specified exceptions. Thus they can be targeted by any card that targets a Lost Soul, or be put in a Site, like any other Lost Soul
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 12:48:09 PM »
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1) NO- you cant move a ls out of a site unless some ability lets you or it is rescued

2)YES- net gains CBN status. PopQuiz: If you played Poison of Dragons with CotTG in battle, would it gain CBN status?

« Last Edit: June 22, 2010, 09:49:28 PM by RTSmaniac »
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 12:56:42 PM »
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The Prof's are in agreement :)
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 01:03:01 PM »
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The Profs are in agreement.

The Prof's are in agreement :)

Except for in appropriate apostrophe usage apparently... ;)
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 01:26:13 PM »
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Except for in appropriate apostrophe usage apparently... ;)
I just had an implied "answers" in there :)

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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 01:46:34 PM »
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The Profs are in agreement.

The Prof's are in agreement :)

Except for in appropriate apostrophe usage apparently... ;)
Was this grammatical irony intended? ;)
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 03:03:04 PM »
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1) NO- you cant move a ls out of a site unless some ability lets you or it is rescued

2)YES- net gains CBN status. PopQuiz: If you played Poison of Dragons with CotTG in battle, would it gain CBN status?



3)
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I would think so...wow, I never thought of that...but then again it never came to my mind to use orange and black as my defense, lol
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 03:38:04 PM »
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1) NO- you cant move a ls out of a site unless some ability lets you or it is rescued

2)YES- net gains CBN status. PopQuiz: If you played Poison of Dragons with CotTG in battle, would it gain CBN status?


Um. How?
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 03:40:48 PM »
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1) NO- you cant move a ls out of a site unless some ability lets you or it is rescued

2)YES- net gains CBN status. PopQuiz: If you played Poison of Dragons with CotTG in battle, would it gain CBN status?


Um. How?
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 03:49:25 PM »
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1) NO- you cant move a ls out of a site unless some ability lets you or it is rescued

2)YES- net gains CBN status. PopQuiz: If you played Poison of Dragons with CotTG in battle, would it gain CBN status?


Um. How?
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Ok then got to ask that question. In battle I'd say yes but once its on the hero I don't know.....
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2010, 07:21:34 PM »
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1) NO- you cant move a ls out of a site unless some ability lets you or it is rescued

2)YES- net gains CBN status. PopQuiz: If you played Poison of Dragons with CotTG in battle, would it gain CBN status?


Um. How?
Love of Money.

Ok then got to ask that question. In battle I'd say yes but once its on the hero I don't know.....

Btw I understand what is being talked about here but what is CBN mean again...
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2010, 10:22:50 PM »
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CBN=Cannot be Negated.

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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2010, 12:51:41 AM »
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CBN=Cannot be Negated.

Thank You!
I am still learning all the terminology, although I don't know why I did not pick up that one...Lol  :D
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2010, 02:09:05 PM »
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Ok so if I'm reading the REG right I think it does in battle.  But after battle you can play a healing card because a healing card heals does not negate.  see here: http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2010, 06:01:02 PM »
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3) Also, how do you free a captured hero that is not being treated as a lost soul? Is it only by an enhancement or can you make a rescue attempt to free him?

All captured heroes are treated as Lost Souls unless they go somewhere else like Raider's Camp or Demonic Stronghold. They get released per the ability on the card, or another card that releases captured heroes (like I am Redemption).


So when the card says "Capture a Hero" and says "treat as a lost soul" at the end of it...it has the same affect as if it did not have the ending phrase?
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2010, 06:04:29 PM »
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So when the card says "Capture a Hero" and says "treat as a lost soul" at the end of it...it has the same affect as if it did not have the ending phrase?

Yes. The "Treat as a Lost Soul" portion was just clarifying text that was used to clearly state what happened when a character was captured. Eventually, it became a rule that captured characters become Lost Souls (unless other abilities change that) and the phrase was unneeded on any other capture card.
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2010, 11:44:28 AM »
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So when the card says "Capture a Hero" and says "treat as a lost soul" at the end of it...it has the same affect as if it did not have the ending phrase?

Yes. The "Treat as a Lost Soul" portion was just clarifying text that was used to clearly state what happened when a character was captured. Eventually, it became a rule that captured characters become Lost Souls (unless other abilities change that) and the phrase was unneeded on any other capture card.

Alright, well, unless there was something still not clarified, Thank you all very much for your support!  :)
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2010, 01:16:36 PM »
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Hey,

Ok so if I'm reading the REG right I think it does in battle.  But after battle you can play a healing card because a healing card heals does not negate.  see here: http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/

Poison of Dragons does not poison, disease, or discard the hero, so a healing card cannot be used to remove the effect of Poison of Dragons from the Hero.

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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 02:42:37 PM »
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Wait..."Poison" of dragons isn't a poison.

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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 06:54:38 PM »
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Hey,

Ok so if I'm reading the REG right I think it does in battle.  But after battle you can play a healing card because a healing card heals does not negate.  see here: http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/

Poison of Dragons does not poison, disease, or discard the hero, so a healing card cannot be used to remove the effect of Poison of Dragons from the Hero.

Tschow,

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Interesting...so it weakens a hero into becoming captured...that's creepy...Lol!
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2010, 08:31:41 PM »
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Wasn't the definition of Disease/Poison expanded to include everything that is called a poison/disease in the title in addition to it meeting ability criteria?
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 10:01:40 AM »
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Poison of Dragons does not poison
Is this a typo?

PoD has "poison" in the title and has "poison" in the identifier.  It also seems to fit the definition of poisons.  It also has been ruled a poison by RedemptionAggie (who is generally right on ruling stuff).

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The special ability category of Poison and Diseases generally contains cards which slowly decrease the stamina of a character.
A poison ability makes one or more characters “poisoned.”

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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 10:03:48 AM »
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Re: Lost Soul/Site/Capture Qs...
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2010, 12:52:29 PM »
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Hey,

Interesting...so it weakens a hero into becoming captured...that's creepy...Lol!

Well technically Poison of Dragons doesn't have a capture ability either :)

Having the identifier "poison" means the card "is" a poison.  Having a "poison" special ability means the card poisons a hero.  Poison of Dragons "is" a poison, but it doesn't have a poison ability.  It has four abilities: Place, Increase/Decrease, Discard, and Place (which should be capture).  No poison.

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