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« on: October 09, 2010, 06:24:35 PM »
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After a card like New Jerusalem or Ark of the Covenant is used twice and thus discarded, if you put another one down, does it get its two uses?

And if not, is it discarded as well, or does it simply stay in play?  For New Jerusalem, for instance, can I play a second one and use it to hold a lost soul (if I don't want the lost soul shuffled via the Ezekiel 31:14 lost soul but have no other sites)?

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 07:05:11 PM »
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You can use the New Jerusalem site just like any other site.  So yes, putting a Lost Soul in it would protect it from the Lost Soul that shuffles.  After the two uses, the cards are discarded.  You are limited to 1 of these each per 50 cards.

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 07:15:34 PM »
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A may be used twice isn't necessarily discarded, if it doesn't specifie it's not so like burial shroud you can use it to pay a price.
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 07:33:49 PM »
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So does that mean if I use Ark of the Covenant twice, discard it, then draw another Ark of the Covenant (this happens too), I get to use that new Ark of the Covenant twice too?
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2010, 08:01:57 PM »
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A may be used twice isn't necessarily discarded, if it doesn't specifie it's not so like burial shroud you can use it to pay a price.
I believe you are incorrect. Burial Shroud should be discarded.
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 08:07:46 PM »
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by game rule used up arts get discarded and you can only use ark twice since it says twice per game. If it only said twice, then you could use another one.
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 08:54:36 PM »
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by game rule used up arts get discarded and you can only use ark twice since it says twice per game. If it only said twice, then you could use another one.
^Correct. If, however, your first Ark was discarded before you got to use it twice, you could use your other Ark for the remaining uses, up to the 2 maximum.

EDIT: Related question: Do the uses count per controller or per owner? For example, if I get my opponent's Burial Shroud (via Thievery of Judas, for example), can I use it if I've already used my own Shroud twice?
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 01:08:01 PM »
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I would think they count per controller.  Burial Shroud's the wrong example, though - it's not limited to 2 per game.

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 01:11:25 PM »
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Burial Shroud (Ap)

Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Holder may not make a rescue attempt or be attacked. May be used twice. • Play As: Restrict holder from making a rescue attempt. Restrict opponent from attacking holder. May be used twice. • Identifiers: None • Verse: John 20:4-5 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Ultra Rare)
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2010, 01:12:42 PM »
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May be used twice =/= May be used twice per game

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2010, 01:27:13 PM »
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Bad example, I admit it. Substitute Ark or 30 for it. You don't need to say it 3 times, though *glares at Warrior and Rawr*

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 01:40:18 PM »
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if it says may be used twice without discarding it then you can use stuff like Uzzah on it.
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 01:43:53 PM »
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A game rule discards it after you have used it x amount of times. It cannot be Uzzah fodder.

If you have 3 HGs in your deck, and use the first one twice, it is discarded and the other two can be used as Uzzah fodder. What I'm wondering is if you use the 1st one once, then the second one once. Will the second one be discarded?

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 09:35:34 PM »
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I believe New jerusalem doesn't specify to discard it so it stays in territory after the 2 uses you just can't use it for access.
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 11:02:56 PM »
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A game rule discards it after you have used it x amount of times. It cannot be Uzzah fodder.

If you have 3 HGs in your deck, and use the first one twice, it is discarded and the other two can be used as Uzzah fodder. What I'm wondering is if you use the 1st one once, then the second one once. Will the second one be discarded?
I believe HG is different from Burial Shroud, right? Can't you use 3 burial shrouds in one game?
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010, 11:56:59 PM »
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A game rule discards it after you have used it x amount of times. It cannot be Uzzah fodder.

If you have 3 HGs in your deck, and use the first one twice, it is discarded and the other two can be used as Uzzah fodder. What I'm wondering is if you use the 1st one once, then the second one once. Will the second one be discarded?
I believe HG is different from Burial Shroud, right? Can't you use 3 burial shrouds in one game?
Yes you can. Burial Shroud simply says "may be used twice," there is no "per game" restriction.

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2010, 11:59:11 PM »
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What does that have anything to do with Sauce's question?

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2010, 12:05:05 AM »
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Yes you can. Burial Shroud simply says "may be used twice," there is no "per game" restriction. What does that have anything to do with my question?

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2010, 12:09:04 AM »
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I believe New jerusalem doesn't specify to discard it so it stays in territory after the 2 uses you just can't use it for access.
Once a card is used it's uses, it is discarded by default.

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2010, 12:13:30 AM »
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Yes you can. Burial Shroud simply says "may be used twice," there is no "per game" restriction. What does that have anything to do with my question?
I was answering lightningninja's question....

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2010, 12:14:33 AM »
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I was simply talking to Lightning Ninja.

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2010, 01:28:52 AM »
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I was simply talking to Lightning Ninja.
I know you were, but Rawr with a weirdly formatted quote seemed to be questioning my answer, lol.

I'm so confused >_<.

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2010, 01:34:28 AM »
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That wasn't a quote.

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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2010, 02:43:13 AM »
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Re: Limited-use per game cards
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2010, 11:13:51 AM »
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A game rule discards it after you have used it x amount of times. It cannot be Uzzah fodder.

If you have 3 HGs in your deck, and use the first one twice, it is discarded and the other two can be used as Uzzah fodder. What I'm wondering is if you use the 1st one once, then the second one once. Will the second one be discarded?

No because the one artifact wasn't used twice. It was two different ones. So it stays.
I believe New jerusalem doesn't specify to discard it so it stays in territory after the 2 uses you just can't use it for access.
Once a card is used it's uses, it is discarded by default.

I thought that game rule was for arts only. If that is the case doubt should be discarded too but that stays in territory after it's used.
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