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Title: King Mannaseh?
Post by: CJSports on March 02, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
I have king Man with 2k on him with Gates of jerusalem up. I block with King Man and I want to band to Spirit of Temptation to King Nadab.

Can I use King Nadabs Special ability before 2k activates?

If not can I play a battle ender but then complete his ability?

King Man can band to a demon.

Spirit of Temp can band to a human and not be interrupted.

Gates of Jerusalem says my judean kings SA's cannot be negated.

Kind nadab is not judean but Man is.
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: RTSmaniac on March 02, 2011, 02:59:13 PM
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I have king Man with 2k on him with Gates of jerusalem up. I block with King Man and I want to band to Spirit of Temptation to King Nadab.
Can I use King Nadabs Special ability before 2k activates?
YES.
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: soul seeker on March 02, 2011, 03:01:38 PM
My answers are based off the Assyrian Archer band so take it for what its worth.

2K horses is played first (and the play next enhancement) prior to the band.

Then you band...all of this completes King Man in battle as a block.

Spirit of Temp enters battle (seems like he does something else like places card under draw pile) and then bands.

King Nadab enters battle his ability completes then his weapon completes.


With that scenario, then no you can not have Nadab in before 2k horses activates.

    if you are using a battle-ender with 2k horses, then I don't think Nadab ever entered battle.


Again, all this is based off the archer band.
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: RTSmaniac on March 02, 2011, 03:08:43 PM
oops guess i was wrong
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: Gabe on March 02, 2011, 03:08:49 PM
soul seeker is correct.

CARDS WITH MULTIPLE SPECIAL ABILITIES

When a single card has more than one special ability (including gained abilities), and an order is not specified, perform the abilities in this order:

1. First, complete all printed special abilities in the order written on the card EXCEPT those that add a character to the battle.

2. Then complete all gained abilities (gained in set-aside or on previous turn, etc.), EXCEPT those that add a character to the battle.

3. Then, complete all weapon abilities.

4. Then, complete banding abilities.

5. Last, complete choose blocker abilities.
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: crustpope on March 02, 2011, 03:10:04 PM
soul seeker is correct



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Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: CJSports on March 02, 2011, 05:33:13 PM
So King Nadab would never enter battle? What if I had a card like weakness out, would I be able to band then play.

Weakness: Place in a player's territory. If player controls a hero in battle that has decreased toughness, the blocker has initiative to play the first enhancement.
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: redemptioncousin on March 02, 2011, 06:14:07 PM
I would tend to think yes.  Even if you played an enhancement via 2K horses... though that "first" is tricky.  I think I would claim that since 2K horses has nothing to do with initiative, weakness would still give initiative for the first enhancement played "normally".  Tricky though... not 100% sure.
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: Minister Polarius on March 02, 2011, 08:05:16 PM
There is no "play first" anymore. It's now "play an..."
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: crustpope on March 02, 2011, 09:09:09 PM
There is a way to do what you want to do, you just can't play an end the battle card on manaseh.  This would work if you bring manaseh in last and found another way to begin the battle with nadab coming in first and then banding to manaseh.  that way you could recur your fogotten history every time.  If you really want to know how to do it, let PM me and I will let you know.
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: RTSmaniac on March 03, 2011, 08:09:17 AM
habitation of demons
Title: Re: King Mannaseh?
Post by: crustpope on March 05, 2011, 11:03:56 PM
Habitation of demons is one way,  but there are other ways without set asides
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