Author Topic: Converting a Hero with a weapon (Read 2674 times)

The Guardian · « **on:** July 08, 2009, 06:20:42 PM »

If a Hero sitting in a territory with a weapon is converted from one brigade to another with Gold Shield, does the weapon convert as well and stick to the Hero?

Gold Shield~You may discard this card to convert a human Hero in play to a Hero in the brigade of your choice.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2009, 06:25:19 PM »

I believe it should convert with the hero.

Kirk

The Guardian · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2009, 06:35:50 PM »

I think I am okay with it either way, but I would like to figure out which way is consistent and go with it.

Gabe · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2009, 06:40:08 PM »

Quote from: Instant Abilities > Convert > Default Conditions

Weapon-class enhancements stay with a converted character; the special ability continues to function if it does not conflict with the nature of the converted character (see Weapon-class Enhancements in the rulebook [p. 35].

In order for the weapon-class enhancement to stay with the converted character it would have to convert also. We all know that a purple Hero cannot hold a blue weapon, *<edit>therefore the weapon has to convert with the character.

Kevin Shride · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2009, 07:01:28 PM »

That's true, Gabe, but a converted Naaman (red hero) can continue to hold his gray evil weapon, right? I would rule the converted character may continue to hold the weapon regardless of brigade as long as he held it prior to the conversion.

Kevin Shride

Gabe · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2009, 07:12:19 PM »

I guess I wasn't very clear in what I meant. The REG says that the weapon stays on a converted character, so I believe the weapon converts with the character. I don't see why it would matter if the character goes from an EC to a Hero or from a Hero to a Hero. The rules of conversion should still apply.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2009, 10:24:44 PM »

If it aint broke, don't try to make a ruling on it.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2009, 10:32:41 PM »

well the reasoning behind this is the same as:
setting weapon class heros aside with the own ability(pentecost) vs. opponents (nebby pride)
is equal to or not
conversion of own ability vs. conversion by opponent

if i convert my opponents character shouldnt the weapon be discarded?

sk · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2009, 11:33:37 PM »

You're not losing control, their attributes are just changing.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2009, 01:13:48 AM »

Holy cow! An easy way to get good Weapons on a Character in the Brigade of your choice! Wowza.

Kevin Shride · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2009, 06:55:42 AM »

I don't know about "easy". You have to get a gold hero, probably one that's warrior-class, Gold Shield, another hero you want to make a different brigade color, and the weapon that's the original brigade color of the second hero. If you can get all that out and then pull off Gold Shield's ability, knock yourself out.

Kevin Shride

Professoralstad · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2009, 10:17:34 AM »

Quote from: Kevin Shride on July 09, 2009, 06:55:42 AM

I don't know about "easy". You have to get a gold hero, probably one that's warrior-class, Gold Shield, another hero you want to make a different brigade color, and the weapon that's the original brigade color of the second hero. If you can get all that out and then pull off Gold Shield's ability, knock yourself out.

Kevin Shride

I'm not sure why you need a gold hero. Gold Shield is a gray WC enhancement. Anyway, it wouldn't take a lot of setup, since weapon class enhancements can be put on the characters anytime, and getting four cards isn't too hard.

Besides, the benefits of having a purple Ahimaaz with Helmet of Brass seem rather tempting...

STAMP · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2009, 11:13:20 AM »

provisioned, green CotH + 2K horsies + SotL + side battle w/CBN nastiness + HT + green banding enhancement

Easy cheesy to set up.

crustpope · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2009, 11:23:07 AM »

Quote from: STAMP on July 09, 2009, 11:13:20 AM

provisioned, green CotH + 2K horsies + SotL + side battle w/CBN nastiness + HT + green banding enhancement

Easy cheesy to set up.

except how are you going to get Captain converted to Pale green in order to place 2k horses on him?

Gabe · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2009, 11:48:27 AM »

Quote from: crustpope on July 09, 2009, 11:23:07 AM

Quote from: STAMP on July 09, 2009, 11:13:20 AM
provisioned, green CotH + 2K horsies + SotL + side battle w/CBN nastiness + HT + green banding enhancement

Easy cheesy to set up.

except how are you going to get Captain converted to Pale green in order to place 2k horses on him?

It's possible to get 2kHorses on CotH with Ahimelech. I don't know of any way to make him green though.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2009, 12:06:17 PM »

Quote from: The Guardian on July 08, 2009, 06:20:42 PM

Gold Shield~You may discard this card to convert a human Hero in play to a Hero in the brigade of your choice.

And here's why Gold Shield won't work for Captain, just in case anyone was wondering...

STAMP · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2009, 01:03:03 PM »

Human, schmuman. On that note, if I convert a human to silver brigade, and then place Wings on him/her, wouldn't they become an angel?

crustpope · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2009, 01:18:12 PM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on July 09, 2009, 11:48:27 AM

It's possible to get 2kHorses on CotH with Ahimelech. I don't know of any way to make him green though.

Wow. I never thought of that before. Now all the devious things I can do!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2009, 01:53:43 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on July 09, 2009, 01:18:12 PM

Quote from: BrianGabe on July 09, 2009, 11:48:27 AM
It's possible to get 2kHorses on CotH with Ahimelech. I don't know of any way to make him green though.

Wow. I never thought of that before. Now all the devious things I can do!

You can do it, but it's usually easier to convert an EC that's holding a Horse-class enhancement. My brother had a deck that was based on putting 2kH on heroes with Ahimelech at one point, but it can be tricky to pull off.

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Author Topic: Converting a Hero with a weapon (Read 2674 times)