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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2011, 06:33:35 PM »
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Let the real PtB's know that the current system is not working.
Done already.

Apparently not well enough, if this is the case:

As far as I know, there is only one person who can edit the REG: Mike Berkenpas. 

How can this have not been rectified at this point? I find it hard to believe that we can not somehow grant access to more than one person (or just two for that matter). No offense to Mike or Tim, but they should not be doing it alone when there are so many of us that have plenty of time to spare.
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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2011, 10:22:26 PM »
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At some time in the past, probably long before one of the "great purges", Rob stated that the REG is maintained through some software that is very costly.  He's only purchased one license for software and that has been supplied to Mike.  That's why Mike is the only person who has access to update the REG.

That doesn't seem like the most efficient system to me and probably not to most of you either, but it's the one we have.  I agree that it would be better if at least a couple more people had access to make updates.  It's not as easy as saying that more people should have access to update the REG.  We have to also consider the technical requirements, cost and time involved in implementing a better solution.   If anyone knows of a better solution I'm open to suggestions.
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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2011, 12:06:05 AM »
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If anyone knows of a better solution I'm open to suggestions.
Can there be a single board that only people appointed by the PtB can post to that has threads that look something like this.

Subject:     Jerusalem Tower Ruled to Be a Protect

Body:        The special ability on Jerusalem Tower has been ruled to be a protect ability.
                 This overrides the original ruling that the special ability on Jerusalem Tower was a negate.
                 For discussion see <hyperlink>this thread here.</hyperlink>

With the actual card name (not JT in this example) used in the subject and body to allow for easier searching, and no back and forth chatter. In an ideal world there would be one post for every single official ruling made that cannot be found anywhere other than on the boards. Something like this would allay my primary concern.

I understand that is what the official threads are supposed to serve and I will begin using it. The reasons I suggested something slightly different are threefold...

   1) There appear to be at least three official threads--five if you count the two threads on the Errata board--that are all currently being used for this purpose.
   2) Not every ruling is found there--only the "big" ones and those only since November
   3) Searching a single thread is much more difficult to do than searching a board--unless you limit the posts to a single user who doesn't post elsewhere or somesuch

My other personal preference would be that existing rulings on cards would be given some considerable deference when revisiting a card. If there is no compelling reason to overturn a ruling, the ruling should not be overturned (even if the re-ruling may be slightly better if taken de novo). Rulings stability is a very good thing, and benefits the game greatly.

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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2011, 12:22:13 AM »
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At some time in the past, probably long before one of the "great purges", Rob stated that the REG is maintained through some software that is very costly.  He's only purchased one license for software and that has been supplied to Mike.  That's why Mike is the only person who has access to update the REG.

I have offered to help with the REG for well over a year, and this is the very first time that I have heard this. I thank you for the clarification, but I am curious why no one had ever responded so simply before. All I have ever received was a brush-off, which I frankly found quite offensive. A lot of my frustration would have subsided a year ago if I had known this back then.

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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2011, 12:37:06 AM »
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Tim gets busy, but YMT or someone on the job. Seems like a simple fix. The framers of our country weren't even this exclusive about who helps with what.
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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2011, 11:06:58 AM »
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  If anyone knows of a better solution I'm open to suggestions.

In my opinion, a Microsoft Sharepoint site seems like a great solution.

And there are any number of possible volunteers to work on it based on my experience on the boards.  Redemption haz computer geeks, yes?
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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2011, 02:39:38 PM »
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A wiki could work, too.

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Re: JT Revisited
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2011, 09:23:01 PM »
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There's any number of technical solutions that could work. I'm not sure what a wiki or a sharepoint site would add much beyond what we can already do on these boards. Technically-minded people always like technical solution, but sometime simplicity is best for no reason other than the simple solution actually gets implemented.

If all who wanted to help out would scurry hither to the Official Errata board and start creating single-post threads that contain nothing but official rulings--like this one--wouldn't that resolve the vast majority of the issues people are having? I know it would mine.

For content creators, you can pick a page of the Ruling Questions board and let everyone know you are willing to be responsible for it. Scan through the 20 threads there to find any official rulings (of the thus saith Rob or two or more elders variety), check to see if someone else has already created a thread for the ruling, and if not create the threads. (I am guessing that less than half of the threads on the Ruling Questions board have any new meaningful content that would warrant a thread.) You would also probably want to have one of the moderators move/copy the three different official ruling change threads on this board to the Official Errata board.

As a future judge, I can search, skim, or scan one specific board for an answer as to what rulings have changed/been clarified since the REG was last updated.
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