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TheHobbit13

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JT and Forced draw
« on: January 27, 2012, 01:13:00 PM »
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Does JT protect from forced draw? I know this has been discussed before but I don't remember a resolution.

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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 01:30:38 PM »
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I would say no, based on the REG's definition of draw.  You're forcing the other player to draw, not targeting the deck.
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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 02:07:12 PM »
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I would say no, based on the REG's definition of draw.  You're forcing the other player to draw, not targeting the deck.

I agree. Your opponent isn't removing the cards from your deck - you are.

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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 02:08:48 PM »
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I believe that was the rationale for that ruling as well. I am fairly certain it was ruled that a forced draw isn't protected by JT, because otherwise Mayhem would make JT unplayable.
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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 04:44:23 PM »
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I believe that was the rationale for that ruling as well. I am fairly certain it was ruled that a forced draw isn't protected by JT, because otherwise Mayhem would make JT unplayable.

As opposed to now, when it's so playable?

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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 04:53:27 PM »
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I believe that was the rationale for that ruling as well. I am fairly certain it was ruled that a forced draw isn't protected by JT, because otherwise Mayhem would make JT unplayable.

As opposed to now, when it's so playable?

I've actually considered starting to use it in T2 decks, since it seems every other T2 game I play one player has to live without SoG, thanks to Assyrian Survivor+confusion.
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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 06:29:36 PM »
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Florida uses JT.
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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 07:06:24 PM »
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I believe that was the rationale for that ruling as well. I am fairly certain it was ruled that a forced draw isn't protected by JT, because otherwise Mayhem would make JT unplayable.

As opposed to now, when it's so playable?

I've actually considered starting to use it in T2 decks, since it seems every other T2 game I play one player has to live without SoG, thanks to Assyrian Survivor+confusion.

I'm seriously considering adding it as well in my T2 decks.

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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 08:27:31 AM »
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I believe that was the rationale for that ruling as well. I am fairly certain it was ruled that a forced draw isn't protected by JT, because otherwise Mayhem would make JT unplayable.

As opposed to now, when it's so playable?

I've actually considered starting to use it in T2 decks, since it seems every other T2 game I play one player has to live without SoG, thanks to Assyrian Survivor+confusion.

I'm seriously considering adding it as well in my T2 decks.

Especially since Egyptians never seem to completely die out in our meta.  ::)
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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 11:22:23 AM »
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I can't tell if you mean the whole meta or just our own little PA/MD meta. If the latter, I'm quite looking forward to dipping my toes into the MD/PA T2 scene next time I make it to a tournament. If the former, last nationals I played Ken who had a 154 card Egyptian deck, in T1 Teams no less. Good times.

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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 03:08:13 PM »
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last nationals I played Ken who had a 154 card Egyptian deck, in T1 Teams no less.
He still uses that deck. XD

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Re: JT and Forced draw
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 03:13:07 PM »
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Given his current trade thread, it looks like he's aiming for GoS this year.  That would be an interesting deck.

JT would have been a GREAT card for T2-MP at PA States.
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