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browarod

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Joseph and Pithom
« on: September 02, 2011, 06:10:43 PM »
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Do Pithom and Given Over to Egypt (etc.) trigger if I have Joseph in play?

Pithom
Each time an opponent plays a Dominant, if you have an Egyptian in play, discard the top card of his deck or place a good card in his territory beneath deck.

Given Over to Egypt
On activation, if an Egyptian is in play, discard the top card of each opponent's deck. If any are Lost Souls, put them in play instead and discard this Curse at the end of the phase.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 06:25:36 PM »
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I don't think Joseph has the egyptian identifier, and if that's the case then no they don't trigger off Joseph.  However Joseph SHOULD have an egyptian identifier.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 06:30:40 PM »
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inb4 arguement. Joseph is not a "Egyptain", cuz he wasnt born there. Niether is Daniel a Persian etc...
Yet, Paul is roman because he was a citizen. Some (including me) think Joseph should be an Egyptain etc...
I mean he was the Prince in the Palace. i think that in redemption there should be a looser defenition of nationality., like someone needs to be there a certain # of years to gain identifier etc...

(Come to think of it is Esther a Persian or whatever the country it was she became queen?)

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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 06:35:20 PM »
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Esther is a persian, and cannot be ignored while hamans gallows is in play.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 07:09:27 PM »
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Quote from: The Warrior on September 02, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
(Come to think of it is Esther a Persian or whatever the country it was she became queen?)

Esther was a Persian because she was born in the Kingdom of Susa (Capital of the Empire). I'm not 100% about Mordecai, since he may have been born pre-exile, but I would think he would be too.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 07:35:23 PM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on September 02, 2011, 07:09:27 PM
Quote from: The Warrior on September 02, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
(Come to think of it is Esther a Persian or whatever the country it was she became queen?)

Esther was a Persian because she was born in the Kingdom of Susa (Capital of the Empire). I'm not 100% about Mordecai, since he may have been born pre-exile, but I would think he would be too.
Well, thanks for clearing that up, but the original question still needs answering. :P
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 07:36:35 PM »
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Joseph made laws in Egypt. Not sure if he is Egyptian though.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 08:14:41 PM »
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Joseph definitely should have the egyptian identifier in my opinion. He was the second in command of the whole country.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 08:32:28 PM »
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If Joseph’s brothers were not Egyptians than nether would Joseph be an Egyptian. His mother and father were not Egyptian. He was not born in Egypt. I don't think Egypt had an immigration policy back then. Just because he "walks like an Egyptian" doesn’t make him an Egyptian.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 09:22:35 PM »
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Quote from: everytribe on September 02, 2011, 08:32:28 PM
If Joseph’s brothers were not Egyptians than nether would Joseph be an Egyptian. His mother and father were not Egyptian. He was not born in Egypt. I don't think Egypt had an immigration policy back then. Just because he "walks like an Egyptian" doesn’t make him an Egyptian.

What about ruling like an Egyptian?
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 09:44:19 PM »
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Just because a man is the leader of a country doesn't mean that he was born there or identifies with the culture of the land. Zing!
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 10:39:31 PM »
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We should make this thread on a weekly basis.

I'll make it next week... who's got week after that?
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 11:28:34 PM »
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I can get after you.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 11:32:18 PM »
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 11:52:13 PM »
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Quote from: everytribe on September 02, 2011, 08:32:28 PM
Just because he "walks like an Egyptian" doesn’t make him an Egyptian.
I see what you did there :)

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 02, 2011, 09:44:19 PM
Just because a man is the leader of a country doesn't mean that he was born there or identifies with the culture of the land.
I see what you did there too :)
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2011, 01:39:28 AM »
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Personally I think Moses has a stronger argument for Egyptianism than Joseph.
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2011, 09:57:22 AM »
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Moses isn't Egyptian? Seriously? Even though he was born in Egypt and was a prince of Egypt for several years?
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Re: Joseph and Pithom
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2011, 12:35:48 PM »
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Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on September 03, 2011, 01:39:28 AM
Personally I think Moses has a stronger argument for Egyptianism than Joseph.

Personally, I prefer the air.

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