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Jerusalem Tower: No opponent may remove a card from holders draw pile...D.P. may be searched and shuffeled...If Pagan Sacrifices : Place in an opponent's territory. During opponent's up keep phase, he must discard the top card of own D.P. If it is a lost soul put it in play and discard P.S...If P.S. was played first does J.T.take effect over P.S.Or How about Oppressed and Robbed Played as a curse: While your H.E.C. is blocking abilities that discard cards from D.P.'s cannot be negated...What if it is played first? Thanks Please Help

1.) Jerusalem Tower would not stop Pagan Sacrifices since the opponent is not removing the card.
2.) JT has a "Play As" in the REG:

Play As: All opponents are prevented from removing cards from holder’s draw pile. Draw pile may still be searched, revealed, and/or shuffled.

Since JT is a prevent and Oppressed and Robbed cannot be negated (therefore cannot be prevented), Oppressed and Robbed cannot be stopped by JT.

1.) Jerusalem Tower would not stop Pagan Sacrifices since the opponent is not removing the card.

Actually, since the opponent played the card, that's not the reason Pagan Sacrifices doesn't work.  It works because it was activated on a previous turn, and therefore can no longer be negated.  See also:

Since JT is a prevent and Oppressed and Robbed cannot be negated (therefore cannot be prevented), Oppressed and Robbed cannot be stopped by JT.

Wait, Pagan Sacrifices works even with JT up?

only if it's played first. or if you have Oppressed and Robbed up. at least, that's what I understood (as I'm listening to I am Understood... weird.)

Quote from: Tsavong Lah on February 16, 2009, 03:06:21 AM

Wait, Pagan Sacrifices works even with JT up?

Yeah but it all balances out since none of the anti-ignore cards available to the Egyptians (including the anti-ignore Lost Soul) can stop Journey to Egypt from completely killing your defense.

and that is why I always hold King Elah in my hand