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I just got done playing a game, and need a ruling.

I RA with a blue hero, my opponent blocks with Greek Philosophers. He plays Abomination of Desolation and then Wrath of Satan. I have initiative via removal, so I play Abraham's Servant to Ur. Does this negate Abomination of Desolation? (I thought it does, because Abe's Servant to Ur doesn't say in battle)


Abraham’s Servant to Ur

Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 2 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: All special abilities except banding on characters and enhancements, except this one, are negated. Battle is determined by the numbers. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Genesis 24:9-10 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Rare)


Abomination of Desolation

Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: If used by a Greek, place in opponent's territory. Each time opponent draws cards (except during draw phase), you may discard a card in that territory except a Lost Soul. • Attributes: False Religious Practice, Limit of one in territory • Identifiers: OT, False Religious Practice, Limit of one in territory • Verse: Daniel 11:31 • Availability: Rock of Ages (Set 14)

When cards don't specify, they only effect cards in play, and I believe this default case applies to Abe's Servant. I think this would mean that ABom's place ability would be negated and it would go back to battle and not work anymore.

*EDIT* Intraposted

So if the opponent had originally blocked with The Amalekite's Slave and used the SA to bring the Greek into battle would Abe's Servant also negate TAS leaving only the blue Hero + Abes Servant vs TAS?

I believe it was decided in a previous ruling that AS's ability does not get negated by a "negate characters and enhancements" ability because it's no longer a character, but I'm not positive.

If AS is a captured character, then Abe's Servant should negate it, since AStU targets characters.

I agree that Abe's Servant would negate Abom, because Abom is an enhancement, and it is the same phase of the turn.

I disagree that Abe's Servant would negate TAS, because a "captured character" is not a "character" in the same way that a "crab apple" is not an "apple" as Bryon always likes to say

Leave it to the math teacher to make a math example. 

If AS can not be negated because it is "being treated as a Lost Soul," then all aspects of the card must be treated like a Lost Soul. If not, then a captured character has to follow the same rules as characters for the sake of newer players and silly hosts like me.

Wasn't it ruled that Arioch could not discard a captured male character because they technically arent "Characters" anymore, but rather "characters being treated as lost souls"?

Wait - if they are no longer characters when in the LoB, then how do King Asnapper, Ashpenaz, etc. work?

I'm just basing what I know off the Arioch ruling... 

You are not incorrect. I guess I am just griping about what I perceive as generalized inconsistencies that may lead to incorrect rulings at tournaments by hosts like me that mess up rulings 67.83% of the time.

But, to me, it is a confusing classification. I think the original idea of "treat as a lost soul" is more clear.