Author Topic: Jealousy in the temple (Read 3840 times)

slugfencer · « **on:** September 13, 2009, 10:20:30 PM »

When you use image o jealousy to negate the special ability of a fortress (z temple) does it also negate the identifier?

Image of Jealousy
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 1 / 3 • Class: Territory • Special Ability: on a Hero or good Fortress. While this card remains, negate the special ability on that card.

Zerubbabel’s Temple
Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect your Zerubbabel’s Temple Priests from capture, conversion, and removal from the game. Only one good Temple or Tabernacle may be in a player’s territory. • Identifiers: Holds one Temple artifact, except Ark of the Covenant and Tables of the Law •

Smokey · « **Reply #1 on:** September 13, 2009, 10:21:22 PM »

Quote from: slugfencer on September 13, 2009, 10:20:30 PM

When you use image o jealousy to negate the special ability of a fortress (z temple) does it also negate the identifier?

Image of Jealousy
Type: Evil Enh. Brigade: Brown Ability: 1 / 3 Class: Territory Special Ability: on a Hero or good Fortress. While this card remains, negate the special ability on that card.

Zerubbabels Temple
Type: Fortress Brigade: Multicolor Ability: None Class: None Special Ability: Protect your Zerubbabels Temple Priests from capture, conversion, and removal from the game. Only one good Temple or Tabernacle may be in a players territory. Identifiers: Holds one Temple artifact, except Ark of the Covenant and Tables of the Law

Not atm, but I hear the Identifier will be erroted into the SA soon.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #2 on:** September 13, 2009, 10:41:25 PM »

I haven't heard such a thing.

sk · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2009, 10:45:45 PM »

I'm pretty sure Smokey is joking. No such change has been discussed/announced.

SirNobody · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2009, 10:49:24 PM »

Hey,

Any "holds" sentence on a card is a special ability regardless of where it appears on the card. So even thought "Holds one Temple artifact, except Ark of the Covenant and Tables of the Law" appears where an identifier should appear, it is actually a special ability.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #5 on:** September 13, 2009, 11:02:26 PM »

Since when? thats a pretty signifigant change to just make secretly.

Gabe · « **Reply #6 on:** September 13, 2009, 11:06:18 PM »

I'll assume that a rule that Tim wants to see in the new REG. It's not the way it's been ruled in the past or the way it is presently being ruled.

Master KChief · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2009, 12:46:56 AM »

true, that is not the way it is ruled currently.

SirNobody · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2009, 01:32:05 AM »

Hey,

The way I see it "Holds one Temple artifact" can't be an identifier any more than "This character is a priest" can be an ability. The comment I made was a decision made by Mike, Bryon and myself in an e-mail discussion about a year ago. I assume it isn't in the REG because it got lost over time in Mike's business.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Bryon · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:20:50 PM »

"Holds" is a special ability.

Fortress special abilities tend to be quite long. Putting "holds" abilities in the identifier line seemed like a good idea at the time...

But it is the special ability that allows you to put cards into and out of the fortress during the prep phase, unless specified otherwise on the card.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:27:24 PM »

....... so IaJ on Tabernacle and/or Z's temple won't let you have multiple temple arts?

Bryon · « **Reply #11 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:38:00 PM »

correct. no multiple arts

Master KChief · « **Reply #12 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:01:17 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 13, 2009, 11:02:26 PM

Since when? thats a pretty signifigant change to just make secretly.

redemptioncousin · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:07:25 PM »

If you use I am Grace to get rid of IoJ, can you activate an art in the temple that turn???

Bryon · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:15:13 PM »

I was discussing this as a rule that will appear in the REG. I am not certain whether this is the ruling now.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #15 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:41:13 PM »

I'm pretty sure the ruling right now is that the combo works. Identifiers have never been able to be negated, and IoJ definitely doesn't.

Bryon · « **Reply #16 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:45:36 PM »

You can try to do it now if you want, I suppose, but once the REG in posted around Thanksgiving or so, it won't be legal anymore.

So, you might want to try doing something else with your deck.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #17 on:** September 15, 2009, 05:10:15 PM »

Quote from: Bryon on September 15, 2009, 04:45:36 PM

once the REG in posted around Thanksgiving or so...

Right after Duke Nukem Forever is released

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #18 on:** September 15, 2009, 05:10:15 PM »

SPOILER ALERT!!

TimMierz · « **Reply #19 on:** September 15, 2009, 05:15:57 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on September 15, 2009, 05:10:15 PM

Quote from: Bryon on September 15, 2009, 04:45:36 PM
once the REG in posted around Thanksgiving or so...
Right after Duke Nukem Forever is released

Hey, that's my joke!

Master KChief · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:04:21 PM »

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2009, 10:48:18 PM »

That's amazing...

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #22 on:** September 15, 2009, 11:03:32 PM »

awesomeness personified

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Author Topic: Jealousy in the temple (Read 3840 times)

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