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The dam is already starting to show cracks and leaks.

Break the dam.  Release the river

Couldn't resist .

Ithamar already DOES lead to broken combos if not played as he has historically been played.  So, he's getting a play as so that he stays that way.  Rob already singed off on it.  According to Rob, Ithamar cannot activate a non-Tabernacle artifact on the Tabernacle.

If you think Battle Prayer (wa) is broken, start a thread about it and ask for errata or something.  I'll watch as people throw things at you. 

I don't think the official conclusion to this discussion was announced.  At least not that I see here.  This is Rob's decision.

The identifier on The Tabernacle Reads:  Holds one active Tabernacle Artifact.  That gives us our answer.  Ithamar can't force The Tabernacle to do something it can't do.

I don't think it makes sense, but at least I'm glad we have an answer.

That's a load of bull. I guess we'll never see an EC that puts Asherah Pole in Solomon's Temple.

I agree that Ithamar shouldn't do what he says he does, but I disagree with the reasoning of why it shouldn't work. SA's override other SA's and Identifiers all the time.

SA's override...Identifiers all the time.

such as?

To me it makes just as much sense to say that Gathering of Angels doesn't work on heroes with banding abilities, because their banding abilities restrict them from banding to anybody else.

Gathering is a gained ability. it would not be able to band to somebody who has an identifier of "this character may not brought into battle if holder has a hero in battle already." except better wording.

I RA with ET and play Reach of Desperation. Can I then play the buckler? Reach says "may play the next enhancement".

At least how I see it. Just because you're allowed to activate an artifact doesn't mean you get to bypass the identifier (or brigade in my ET scenario)

Priestly Breastplate says it may be placed on a priest when you activate it. What if the priest says "Holds one Tabernacle Artifact" in the identifier line? Is it not able to hold Priestly Breastplate then?

I didn't think characters had/could have Holds abilities....

Quote from: browarod on August 29, 2010, 11:05:09 PM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 29, 2010, 06:42:47 PM

Priestly Breastplate says it may be placed on a priest when you activate it. What if the priest says "Holds one Tabernacle Artifact" in the identifier line? Is it not able to hold Priestly Breastplate then?

I didn't think characters had/could have Holds abilities....

Where does it say that? And even if that's true, does it really affect the argument?

Well, none have it so far that I know of. And, yes, it negates your comparison.

This is bordering on insanity...let it go man...no matter how much you want this to work the PTB have spoken...(coming from someone who can relate)

Ithamar already DOES lead to broken combos if not played as he has historically been played.  So, he's getting a play as so that he stays that way.  Rob already singed off on it.  According to Rob, Ithamar cannot activate a non-Tabernacle artifact on the Tabernacle.

If you think Battle Prayer (wa) is broken, start a thread about it and ask for errata or something.  I'll watch as people throw things at you. 

No vote is needed since Rob's decision has been handed down by an Elder...and in my opinion the thread should be locked once a definite answer has been rendered by an elder so as to not bury the answer in and amongst people discussing and then beating a dead horse.

Can we at least see the reasoning as to why the ruling decision was made as it was?