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Hey,Quote from: thestrongangel on October 13, 2009, 12:20:55 PMNow, in order for that activation to be a legal play, the artifact must be a Tabernacle artifact, as noted by the fact that the Tabernacle says holds one active Tabernacle artifact in its attribute line.The holds statement on the Tabernacle allows you to activate a Tabernacle artifact on the Tabernacle, it isn't limiting you to activating only Tabernacle artifacts on the Tabernacle.I can activate Priestly Breastplate on Aaron even though he doesn't say he can hold priestly breastplate.The Garden Tomb has the identifier "empty!" but that doesn't mean I can't put Image of Jealousy on it.Tschow,Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
Now, in order for that activation to be a legal play, the artifact must be a Tabernacle artifact, as noted by the fact that the Tabernacle says holds one active Tabernacle artifact in its attribute line.
PlaceWhen a special ability instructs a player to place a card on a second card, the placed card remains with the second card until the second card is discarded, returned to the draw pile or hand, or until the placed card is removed by a special ability.
The TabernacleType: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Glory of the Lord protects this card and its contents. If you have Solomon’s Temple in play, discard this card (regardless of protection) and transfer its contents to Solomon’s Temple. • Identifiers: Holds one active Tabernacle Artifact • Verse: Exodus 40:34
This is so completely an apples to oranges arguement that it can't hold water.Placing a card is different than holding a card.
Hey,Quote from: thestrongangel on October 13, 2009, 08:18:17 PMThis is so completely an apples to oranges arguement that it can't hold water.Placing a card is different than holding a card.The definition of a hold ability: "A hold abilities allows a player to place qualifying cards on the card with the hold ability when it is not at it's maximum capacity and allows a player to return cards from the card with the hold ability."Placing a card isn't different than holding a card.I realize the whole definition of hold isn't publicly available, but it exists, Mike, Bryon and I agree on it, and I wrote it. So I kinda know what I'm talking about here.Tschow,Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
Well, then it needs to be public.
Secondly, Place is different than holding, as your very definition says that a card can only be placed there if it is a qualifying card. Are we going to be consistant here or not?
It says the holds ability can place a qualifying card, it says nothing about prohibiting other cards from placing non-qualifying cards.
Why has this game come down to people trying to twist the wording of cards to make them work the way they want them to, instead of the way they are designed and meant to work?Ithamar is obviously activating a Tabernacle Artifact on the Tabernacle.
Interrupt the battle, draw X cards, and play the next enhancement effects don't let you play an enhancement of a brigade not present in battle, so why should a character be able to place an artifact on a fortress that can't hold it?
It's the exact same concept as Ethopian Tresurer letting you play the next enhancement.
Ok, perhaps I am missing something...but what artifact would be so OPd if it were placed in the Tabernacle for one turn?