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Unless it is just me, the links to the REG are currently not working.
Quote from: YourMathTeacher on October 11, 2009, 10:30:13 AMUnless it is just me, the links to the REG are currently not working. mine arent working either.......... odd
The REG is down for me too...
Can Ithamar, son of Aaron activate a non-tabernacle artifact on The Tabernacle? I wouldn't think so, but what if Image of Jealousy or Spreading Mildew were placed on The Tabernacle?
Hey,Quote from: BubbleBoy on October 11, 2009, 09:45:04 AMCan Ithamar, son of Aaron activate a non-tabernacle artifact on The Tabernacle? I wouldn't think so, but what if Image of Jealousy or Spreading Mildew were placed on The Tabernacle?My gut reaction is to say yes. The activate an artifact part of Ithamar's ability isn't clarifying text because it allows you to activate an artifact at a time you normally couldn't. And it doesn't restrict the Artifact to being a temple artifact. I wouldn't be surprised if the other powers that be find a way to limit Ithamar to only activating tabernacle artifacts, but for now I'm going to say he can activate a non-tabernacle artifact there.Tschow,Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
My gut reaction is to say yes. The activate an artifact part of Ithamar's ability isn't clarifying text because it allows you to activate an artifact at a time you normally couldn't. And it doesn't restrict the Artifact to being a temple artifact. I wouldn't be surprised if the other powers that be find a way to limit Ithamar to only activating tabernacle artifacts, but for now I'm going to say he can activate a non-tabernacle artifact there.
Then what are the rules for that Artifact? Does it stay active until deactivated/discarded? Can you put a Tabernacle artifact in the Tabernacle while the non-Tabernacle Artifact is there (because of the ability of the Tabernacle)? I don't know, it all seems fishy to me.
I'm leaning towards saying that "The Tabernacle" in the second sentence of Ithamar's ability is refering to "The Tabernacle" from the first sentence of his ability.
You may activate an artifact on The Tabernacle.
The whole point of special abilities is that they make things happen that wouldn't happen naturally by game rule. Ithamar just says to activate an artifact on the Tabernacle. It makes no reference to the Tabernacle's ability. I'm glad Tim agrees with me on this one.
Quote from: BubbleBoy on October 13, 2009, 07:32:37 AMThe whole point of special abilities is that they make things happen that wouldn't happen naturally by game rule. Ithamar just says to activate an artifact on the Tabernacle. It makes no reference to the Tabernacle's ability. I'm glad Tim agrees with me on this one.What really flabberghasts me is that apparently when card A says do something, then we can simply ignore every other cards effects and attributes because card A says do this.Ithamar lets you activate an artifact on your fortress The Tabernacle. You are being given an artifact activation effect outside of the preperation phase, and only on the tabernacle. Now, in order for that activation to be a legal play, the artifact must be a Tabernacle artifact, as noted by the fact that the Tabernacle says holds one active Tabernacle artifact in its attribute line.It's the exact same concept as Ethopian Tresurer letting you play the next enhancement. Since he allows you to play an enhancement outside of the battle initiative, then are we allowed to play a green enhancement on him? You can play an enhancement without an EC in battle, so then we are allowed to ignore the fact that he is a purple hero, right?
Why has this game come down to people trying to twist the wording of cards to make them work the way they want them to, instead of the way they are designed and meant to work?Ithamar is obviously activating a Tabernacle Artifact on the Tabernacle.
Why has this game come down to people trying to twist the wording of cards to make them work the way they want them to, instead of the way they are designed and meant to work?
Now, in order for that activation to be a legal play, the artifact must be a Tabernacle artifact, as noted by the fact that the Tabernacle says holds one active Tabernacle artifact in its attribute line.
It's the exact same concept as Ethopian Tresurer letting you play the next enhancement.
Quote from: thestrongangel on October 13, 2009, 12:20:55 PMIt's the exact same concept as Ethopian Tresurer letting you play the next enhancement.I think this is the best explanation. Just because ET can play a GE at a different time doesn't mean it can be a different color than purple.
The holds statement on the Tabernacle allows you to activate a Tabernacle artifact on the Tabernacle, it isn't limiting you to activating only Tabernacle artifacts on the Tabernacle.
The Garden Tomb has the identifier "empty!" but that doesn't mean I can't put Image of Jealousy on it.
But it can be a different color than purple.