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Does an ITB card, such as Naaman's C&H or Egyptian Horses, interrupt Two Witnesses "After battle, discard all ECs that blocked" ability if the Two Witnesses is discarded as a result of the ITB, draw 2 and play the next (and assuming the next enh is a card that under decks or discards or otherwise removes Two Witnesses from play)?

Scenario:

Two Witnesses begins a rescue.  I block with Huge Egyptian who already has Egyptian Horses on him in territory.  I discard the top card of opponent's deck from Huge Egyptian's ability, then Egyptian Horses kicks in.  I ITB, draw 2, and play Evicted.  My opponent doesn't have anything to negate the card, and he chooses to withdrawal Two Witnesses.  Does Two Witnesses' discard of all ECs that blocked activate now, or is it considered an on-going ability that was interrupted by Egyptian Horses?

Also, what if I played Magicians' Snakes and make myself immune to heroes.  We withdrawal from a stalemate.  Does my Egyptian EC get discarded because of Two Witnesses' ability, or is he still immune?

The after battle discard is a triggered ability, so it is ongoing. Since Two Witnesses isn't in battle to reactivate, you can't discard.

The after battle discard is a triggered ability, so it is ongoing. Since Two Witnesses isn't in battle to reactivate, you can't discard.

I agree.

Assyrian Archer is another good example of this. If you choose to use his ability to discard a hero but ITB with two thousand horses, draw and play forgotten history, Assyrian Archer lives. This is because when the battle ended, the ability of discarding Assyrian Archer after battle was interrupted and did not deactivate because of the end the battle with Forgotten History. It’s not an instant ability because it is waiting until the end of battle to accomplish something. An instant ability would happen, well...instantaneously.   

Quote from: RedemptionAggie on March 23, 2018, 01:23:56 PM

The after battle discard is a triggered ability, so it is ongoing. Since Two Witnesses isn't in battle to reactivate, you can't discard.

From my understanding TW doesn’t have to be in battle in order for the “after battle” ability to work. If he’s discarded or underdecked or whatever then the EC that blocked is discarded. So long as his ability isn’t negated, no matter what happens to TW the “after battle” ability still triggers.

TW would need to still be in battle for the ability to reactivate, the same way other non-TC abilities don’t work in territory. Although the ability is not negated, it is interrupted - if the character is no longer in battle when that interrupt resolves, then the character’s ability does not have a chance to activate again.

My apologies I was thinking about two different scenarios. With Aggie’s reply he was answering my question about ITB. With my reply to Aggie’s reply I wasn’t thinking about the ITB but was thinking about the general outcome that his ability works even if he’s removed from play. Disregard my response to his reply.

Correct the immunity lasts until the end of the phase and the "after battle" stuff still happens in the battle phase.

If you make a rescue attempt with the two witnesses and your opponent plays and interrupts the battle draw three and play the next enhancement and then he plays an end the battle card will the two witnesses still discard the evil characters that were in battle?