Author Topic: Is Simon the Magician a greek? (Read 2601 times)

Korunks · « **on:** November 30, 2010, 10:59:45 PM »

I cannot find any resource that can confirm this for me. I have also heard he was Samaritan. What is the Redemption definition of being a Greek? Born in Greece? Lived in Greece?

Isildur · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2010, 11:07:07 PM »

I believe he is a Samaritan. Redemption definition of Greek is I think being born in Greece or having something to show they are Greek. Same as how Paul who is a Roman citizen is thus Roman.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2010, 11:33:08 PM »

Born to a Greek family. David is not Philistine, even though he lived there for some time.

He is a Samaritan. And a Magician. Double shiny artifact fun.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #3 on:** December 01, 2010, 12:02:18 AM »

I was born to an American family. That makes me American. I am not sure what is more Greek than being born to Greeks.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #4 on:** December 01, 2010, 12:41:01 AM »

So, if he was born to a Greek family, shouldn't he be Greek?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #5 on:** December 01, 2010, 12:48:12 AM »

You can also be a part of a nationality by culture and citizenship (like Paul). Any character in the Bible with a Greek name making idols to Greek Gods I'd say is Greek, anyone living in Asia Minor that's not a Jew, etc.

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #6 on:** December 01, 2010, 10:16:14 AM »

wait simon the magician is a Samaritan?

Korunks · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2010, 03:12:30 PM »

Quote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on December 01, 2010, 10:16:14 AM

wait simon the magician is a Samaritan?

Yes, I was hoping he was a greek too.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on December 01, 2010, 12:48:12 AM

You can also be a part of a nationality by culture and citizenship (like Paul). Any character in the Bible with a Greek name making idols to Greek Gods I'd say is Greek, anyone living in Asia Minor that's not a Jew, etc.

So you would consider Simon the Magician a greek?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2010, 03:22:58 PM »

Korunks · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2010, 04:08:41 PM »

But he meets part of the criteria in your statement:

Quote from: Minister Polarius on December 01, 2010, 12:48:12 AM

You can also be a part of a nationality by culture and citizenship (like Paul). Any character in the Bible with a Greek name making idols to Greek Gods I'd say is Greek, anyone living in Asia Minor that's not a Jew, etc.

Emphasis mine. He lived in Asia Minor and was not a Jew. Perhaps I misunderstood your original statement, or I am missing facts about Simon. Otherwise he would be greek by your definition.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #10 on:** December 02, 2010, 02:18:12 AM »

Citation for not a Jew and living in Asia Minor? The only time he's mentioned in the Bible he's in Samaria, which was in Judea, not Asia Minor.

Gabe · « **Reply #11 on:** December 02, 2010, 10:08:32 AM »

He's not Greek but he is a Samaritan, magician and a heretic.

Korunks · « **Reply #12 on:** December 02, 2010, 12:37:12 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on December 02, 2010, 02:18:12 AM

Citation for not a Jew and living in Asia Minor? The only time he's mentioned in the Bible he's in Samaria, which was in Judea, not Asia Minor.

I thought Samaria was part of Asia Minor and having difficulty even locating any source that defines the exact boundries of asia minor. Also I thought you were refering to his nationality, culture and citizenship, not his bloodline. He didn't seem to be practing Judaism culturally because he was a sorceror. Saul/Paul was a Jew by bloodline, Jewish in his culture, but Roman in citizenship and we consider him a Roman in addition to a Jew. Wouldn't Simon be something in addition to being a Samaritan? Wasn't he also a citizen of the Roman empire? I guess I am trying to determine why some characters get cultural identifiers but not others.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #13 on:** December 02, 2010, 03:20:38 PM »

There's no textual reason to believe he was a Roman citizen or that he was doing anything particularly Greek.

Korunks · « **Reply #14 on:** December 02, 2010, 03:35:00 PM »

So I am wrong, I can live with that. But could we at least agree that there are characters in the game missing identifiers?

Gabe · « **Reply #15 on:** December 02, 2010, 03:37:13 PM »

Quote from: Korunks on December 02, 2010, 03:35:00 PM

So I am wrong, I can live with that. But could we at least agree that there are characters in the game missing identifiers?

That's totally possible. Identifiers get added to characters from time to time. If you believe you've found a character missing an identifier please let us know which character and the passage from the Bible that you feel proves your point. Sometimes sources outside the Bible are accepted but it's much rarer so don't count on that.

Korunks · « **Reply #16 on:** December 02, 2010, 03:49:06 PM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on December 02, 2010, 03:37:13 PM

Quote from: Korunks on December 02, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
So I am wrong, I can live with that. But could we at least agree that there are characters in the game missing identifiers?

That's totally possible. Identifiers get added to characters from time to time. If you believe you've found a character missing an identifier please let us know which character and the passage from the Bible that you feel proves your point. Sometimes sources outside the Bible are accepted but it's much rarer so don't count on that.

Cool. I will look over some, might lead to some more fun gameplay.

The Warrior · « **Reply #17 on:** December 02, 2010, 05:57:38 PM »

Agreed

The M · « **Reply #18 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:11:34 PM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on December 02, 2010, 10:08:32 AM

He's not Greek but he is a Samaritan, magician and a heretic.

New N.T. COMBO!

And wouldn't all magicians be heretics, claiming they are God and Jesus wasn't?

The Warrior · « **Reply #19 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:24:26 PM »

Quote from: The M on December 02, 2010, 09:11:34 PM

Quote from: BrianGabe on December 02, 2010, 10:08:32 AM
He's not Greek but he is a Samaritan, magician and a heretic.
New N.T. COMBO!

And wouldn't all magicians be heretics, claiming they are God and Jesus wasn't?

No i think Simon was a backslider

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #20 on:** December 03, 2010, 04:07:27 AM »

"Backslider" is a term made up by the modern church. Simon was only ever interested in power.

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Author Topic: Is Simon the Magician a greek? (Read 2601 times)

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