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Adding an additional example of food toppings/fillings does not clarify the position any further. "May band to a female Evil Character of any brigade except brown" is shorthand for "May band to a black, crimson, gold, gray, orange or pale green female Evil Character". just as "May search for an O.T. good card of any brigade other than teal is shorthand for "May search for an O.T. blue, gold, green, purple, red, silver or white good card." Assuming there were a limited number of donut fillings/pizza toppings, similar logic would apply. Could it have been worded better? Certainly. But it is perfectly logical for it to work as I have suggested, it meshes well with previous rulings on Zadok Anoints, and it is by no means OP'd. Hopefully another Elder can come in and confirm it, but until that happens, for any tournaments that I am involved with wherein my ruling is asked for, everyone can use this as a reference. I can assure you that my position won't change.
Quote from: Redoubter on December 04, 2013, 09:08:36 PM"With any brigade other than teal" literally means that it just has to have any other brigade, but it doesn't exclude teal cards."Of any brigade except brown" means that it cannot have brown.This makes sense to me. I'll start a discussion with the other elders to see if we can come to a consensus.
"With any brigade other than teal" literally means that it just has to have any other brigade, but it doesn't exclude teal cards."Of any brigade except brown" means that it cannot have brown.
except and other than seem very simular to me.
I was rather confident with this because in my recent RMG video series (which will not be continuing due to my computer breaking) I looked it up. here here and here, although that middle one just references that last one with no disagreements.These are all the rulings on it I can find, but they're all consistent.
Quote from: Westy on March 20, 2014, 05:20:31 PMI was rather confident with this because in my recent RMG video series (which will not be continuing due to my computer breaking) I looked it up. here here and here, although that middle one just references that last one with no disagreements.These are all the rulings on it I can find, but they're all consistent.Looks like you missed this one referenced earlier. The ones you posted only had 1 Elder post, and very few posters overall, while this one did show that there may be some disagreement (and Guardian confirmed that here).
I think we should just have one ruling for these situations regardless of the wording.
Quote from: RTSmaniac on March 20, 2014, 03:52:14 PMexcept and other than seem very simular to me.Not really, one is "exclusive" while the other is "inclusive".Zadok Anoints requires that it have a brigade "other than teal". Quite literally any card with a brigade other than teal, even if it also has teal, meets that qualification.On the other hand, saying "of any brigade except brown" means that anything with brown is excepted, not allowable. Anything else is fine, 'except' that.
Why does referring to a card's type versus a card's identifiers change how you're "applying" targeting to it? (especially since type is basically just a kind of identifier)Also, Zimri DOES say evil character, just earlier in the sentence. I don't see how they are not equivalent. (not to mention you're expanding some shorthands but not others)