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No. An ITB won't work beings UW isn't in battle, and an interrupt an artifact (I don't think any exist...) won't work beings UW is discarded.

I'm pretty sure they won't allow ITB to interrupt Writ.  If needed, there will probably be a clause added to the first bullet that the ability has to be in battle, which Writ isn't.

It's not written that ITB only interrupts cards in battle since it's actually called Interrupt the Battle.

Elders generally won't comment on a thread asking an answered-before question that's being unanimously answered correctly by REP's.

Elders generally won't comment on a thread asking an answered-before question that's being unanimously answered correctly by REP's.

But my impression was that you and Aggie had different views on how it worked.  When two REP's don't fall on the same side of an issue I ask for an elder.  If I misinterprated you then my bad.  But I construed this:

It's not written that ITB only interrupts cards in battle since it's actually called Interrupt the Battle.

As stating that you believe that I can interrupt the capture because I am interrupting the battle. 

While that section of the REG probably should be clarified, Interrupt the Battle has always meant it interrupts abilities active in battle. It doesn't interrupt Fortresses, Artifacts, Sites, etc., just characters and enhancements in battle.

But the ability is active in battle, it is removing me from there.  Just because the source of the ability originated from outside the battle doesn't change that it is active in the battle.  If thats how the PTB want it then fine.  But it does not, to me, logically follow that Unholy Writ is not active in battle.  I guess that would depend on how you define "active" in battle.  Can you define that for me?

But the ability is active in battle, it is removing me from there.  Just because the source of the ability originated from outside the battle doesn't change that it is active in the battle.  If thats how the PTB want it then fine.  But it does not, to me, logically follow that Unholy Writ is not active in battle.  I guess that would depend on how you define "active" in battle.  Can you define that for me?

By that logic, lots of things are active "in battle". Covenant with Adam is decreasing human EC's in battle by 0/3. Asherah Pole is making my enhancements in battle CBN. However, SomeKittens is correct that for an ability to really be active "in battle" it must come from a card that is in battle.

There's a certain section of "in play" known as the field of battle.  Heroes, EC's, enhancements and sites being used for access are placed here.  All abilities that originated from that area are part of the battle, and are interrupted with ITB.

By that logic, lots of things are active "in battle". Covenant with Adam is decreasing human EC's in battle by 0/3. Asherah Pole is making my enhancements in battle CBN. However, SomeKittens is correct that for an ability to really be active "in battle" it must come from a card that is in battle.

I guess that I have a different definition of "active in battle".  I was under the impression that anything actively affecting the battle was "active in battle".  Can we codify your definition, it is not available for the general public and has been a major source of contention for me.  If I had known that definition for "active in battle" it would have prevented a lot of my arguments about the interrupt ability in general.

Obviously I agree that for an interrupt the battle ability to interrupt a card it must be in battle.  I wonder about Magic Charms on a magician in battle.  Could it legally be interrupted?

I don't think there is currently a precedent for this.  What are your thoughts?

Since Magic Charms does NOT send a captured hero to Raiders Camp (due to the ruling that the evil character is NOT the one doing the capturing), it seems that the artifact is being disassociated from the character.  This would mean that it would NOT be interrupted when an ITB interrupted characters and enhancements in battle.

Of course it does make sense to me that the artifact is really "in battle" and therefore it's SA is "in battle", too.  But it also makes sense to me that the evil character is using Magic Charms to capture people, and I lost that argument a long time ago

"You may discard this card from your Magician during battle to capture up to two human Heroes"

Doesn't that technically imply the magicians have to be in the field of battle for MC to work, leading it to be Interrupted?

"You may discard this card from your Magician during battle to capture up to two human Heroes"

Doesn't that technically imply the magicians have to be in the field of battle for MC to work, leading it to be Interrupted?

"During battle" is short for "during the battle phase".  Magic Charms is most commonly used from a magician in a territory.  You could even be making a rescue attempt when you choose to capture 2 Heroes.

If you think that's OP you should have seen the original version of Magic Charms before I got them to water it down.  It could be used anytime, not just during battle, and capture X Heroes where X = to your magicians.  Ouch! 

That's possible, but there are very few cases when it would matter, and I don't think that allowing one of the three Artifacts that could potentially be in battle to be interrupted is a bad thing. For example, say you have your Magic Charms on your Damsel. I attack you, and you block with Damsel so you can use her draw ability, but then you end up just using MC anyway. The only difference between blocking and not blocking is that you got to draw, but I certainly don't see it as a bad thing if I then have a chance to interrupt. And if you attack me with Simon and Cross Beams, and I really wanted to band in my Red Dragon, I could just use Lurking to do so. Not too bad in that case either. Interrupting the battle interrupts any ignore abilities in battle anyway, so Priestly Breastplate wouldn't really be affected at all.

As for Sites, the only ones that have SA's that can be active in battle are: Dragon Raid, Promised Land, The Ends of the Earth, and New Jerusalem. But I can't think of any scenarios where interrupting their abilities temporarily would really affect anything.

All that said, I don't really care either way how broad it is, but I do agree that it should be more explicitly stated, so that people won't make similar mistakes in thinking as Korunks did.

As for Sites, the only ones that have SA's that can be active in battle are: Dragon Raid, Promised Land, The Ends of the Earth, and New Jerusalem. But I can't think of any scenarios where interrupting their abilities temporarily would really affect anything.

All my LS are in sites, you make a rescue attempt with access via Dragon Raid.  I block with low numbers, and ITB/play next.  I then play Gib Trick or any CBN battle-ender.  My guy dies, but the battle's over before your access can resume, so you don't get a soul.