Author Topic: Interceding question (Read 2677 times)

katedid · « **on:** April 16, 2011, 10:08:18 PM »

This is probably a really dumb question, but it came up today in multiplayer. Can Interceding for Battle (set aside Aaron, Moses, or Hur. While set aside prevent the word "immune" on all Evil Caracters blocking holder's Heroes.) be used on other people's characters? Can I basically hijack somone elses Moses to protect myself?

Red · « **Reply #1 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:16:08 PM »

Nope.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #2 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:34:33 PM »

I think it can. It doesn't say "your"

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #3 on:** April 16, 2011, 11:34:35 PM »

Actually if used in battle it can. But set-asides only target your own characters and even then only ones of the same alignment when used during prep or discard.

katedid · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2011, 02:00:48 PM »

I think this definately qualifies as a gray area. I mean technically, if you were to set aside someone elses Moses, Aaron, or Hur you would be inhibiting them in some way which would be sort of evil since it would benefit you and not them.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2011, 02:13:19 PM »

Technically, it's still not "harm"

katedid · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2011, 02:31:16 PM »

So, until some powers that be make an offcial ruling on this, its entirely up to the individuals and the next time we play, if you play Hur, I can steal him?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2011, 02:47:40 PM »

If played during battle Interceding can set aside an opponents Hur/Aaron/Moses

SomeKittens · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2011, 02:58:17 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on April 17, 2011, 02:47:40 PM

If played during battle Interceding can set aside an opponents Hur/Aaron/Moses

What's the difference between battle and prep/discard?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:02:14 PM »

From the rulebook (page 34):

A player may not set aside an opponent’s character unless:

• The special ability of the enhancement specifically states that the opponent’s character may be targeted and

• The set-aside card is activated on a character in the Field of Battle.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:10:53 PM »

So Pretension doesn't set aside, unless it's played in battle?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:18:27 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on April 17, 2011, 03:10:53 PM

So Pretension doesn't set aside, unless it's played in battle?

It would help if you read the rulebook in its context. This quote is in reference to set-aside enhancements, which Interceding for Battle is. Pretension is a territory-class enhancement, which has its own rules.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:19:12 PM »

Pretension is a special case - It can target an opponents character if played during prep.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:40:26 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 17, 2011, 03:18:27 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on April 17, 2011, 03:10:53 PM
So Pretension doesn't set aside, unless it's played in battle?

It would help if you read the rulebook in its context. This quote is in reference to set-aside enhancements, which Interceding for Battle is. Pretension is a territory-class enhancement, which has its own rules.

Pretension sets a character aside. Now, you and I know that it's different, but a new player sees an enhancement that sets aside, and would assume that it's a "set aside" enhancement.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2011, 04:10:23 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on April 17, 2011, 03:40:26 PM

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 17, 2011, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: SomeKittens on April 17, 2011, 03:10:53 PM
So Pretension doesn't set aside, unless it's played in battle?

It would help if you read the rulebook in its context. This quote is in reference to set-aside enhancements, which Interceding for Battle is. Pretension is a territory-class enhancement, which has its own rules.
Pretension sets a character aside. Now, you and I know that it's different, but a new player sees an enhancement that sets aside, and would assume that it's a "set aside" enhancement.

For awhile, Pretension only worked in battle because of the aforementioned rule. However, it was recently modified so that it works as a territory class enhancement. Normal set aside enhancements need to be activated on a character you control to set aside characters you control, if they are played during prep/discard phase. TC set asides (of which there is one) act like any other TC enhancement, and can target any eligible character.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2011, 10:33:51 PM »

So TC > set aside rules. Thanks!

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #16 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:21:33 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on April 17, 2011, 10:33:51 PM

So TC > set aside rules. Thanks!

Indeed. It would be nice if these rules were added to the REG.....

katedid · « **Reply #17 on:** April 18, 2011, 05:00:07 PM »

Indeed. It would be nice if these rules were added to the REG.....

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Tell me about it. I was going to take Interceeding out but if it allows me to permanently set aside an opponents Moses, its staying in there.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2011, 05:01:12 PM »

This may be the first time we see DD used defensively with Brass Serpent.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 18, 2011, 09:03:17 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on April 18, 2011, 05:01:12 PM

This may be the first time we see DD used defensively with Brass Serpent.

The true sweetness with those two cards is that discarding DD does not negate its SA. So if your opponent has some guys in set aside and you discard DD during your opponent's discard phase--he cannot play Brass Serpent to heal his characters.

katedid · « **Reply #20 on:** April 19, 2011, 10:45:39 PM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on April 18, 2011, 09:03:17 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on April 18, 2011, 05:01:12 PM
This may be the first time we see DD used defensively with Brass Serpent.
The true sweetness with those two cards is that discarding DD does not negate its SA. So if your opponent has some guys in set aside and you discard DD during your opponent's discard phase--he cannot play Brass Serpent to heal his characters.

That is.....just....evil....Incredibly awesome....but evil...

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