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Kerith Ravine
Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set this Fortress aside. Holder may put one O.T. human Hero in this Site to protect it from harm. Set-aside enhancements work in this Fortress.

Haman
Type: Evil Character • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 5/6 • Class: None • Special Ability: Set aside up to three O.T. male Heroes in opponents' territories for four turns. If a female Hero does not make a successful rescue attempt during those four turns, discard those Heroes.

Darius' Decree
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Opponents may not play good Enhancements from hand, unless an Evil Character is in battle. You may discard this card to discard all Heroes in set-aside areas.


Alright, so I have a few questions

1) If my opponent sets aside my Hero (via Haman or any other ability like SWJ, the Shame LS, etc), am I allowed to move it into Kerith Ravine?

1a) If I can, would they be protected from the discard ability on Haman?

2) Does Kerith Ravine protect from Darius' Decree? (I know that Harm = an effect from an opposing alignment, but since DD is neutral does it count as opposing?

Does DD keep you from playing good enhancements in a side battle?

1. If your opponent set your character aside, you cannot put them in Kerith Revine. You do not have control of the character being set aside - your opponent has control. You can only place characters in Kerith Revine when you are in control of your characters.

1a. Moot

2. Kerith Revine protects from evil and neutral cards (these are not the same alignment). Therefore, Darius' Decree cannot discard a Hero in Kerith Revine.

If the Micah is not in your own territory, set-aside, or land of bondage, then you can. If it is on your side of the table, then you cannot.

The flip is true for your opponent. If they took your Micah and put it in their set-aside, they cannot play a Micah.

Mike

I knew that question was coming. The current REG doesn't address that. The updated REG will use the following statement: "When a card is set aside it is moved to the set aside area of the player that has permanent control of it.". This means that although your opponent in your case TEMPORARILY had control, you retain permanent control. Hence, your opponent put your characters in set-aside on YOUR side of the table. Hence, you have to count the number of turns set aside during your upkeep phase on your turn. Make sense?

Mike

Hey,

Mike I'm going to disagree/correct you on one thing here.  If I set aside my opponent's character, they retain control of it.  I do not gain control of the character when I set it aside (just like I don't gain control of an opponent's character when I convert or discard it).

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Hey,

Yes.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Hey,

Once the Hero's in KR, it's protected from "harm" correct? Does that mean I can then pull it out of Kerith Ravine and into my territory (before the allotted time on Haman is up) and proceed to use the hero again?

Nope.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

So if I don't control the character, my opponent must count the turns on HIS upkeep phase. That means my opponent is responsible for bringing the character back from set-aside. I'll have to think about that. That isn't a situation I ever considered.

Mike