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in what order does this activate?
« on: October 14, 2009, 11:01:39 PM »
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ok provisions choose the blocker with a prophet with a special ability with hidden treasures activate?
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 11:11:03 PM »
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1. Hero's special ability completes (Prophet)
2. Triggered ability completes (HT & enhancement)
3. Gained choose-the-blocker ability completes (Provisions)
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 11:50:58 PM »
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Quote from: sk on October 14, 2009, 11:11:03 PM
1. Hero's special ability completes (Prophet)
2. Triggered ability completes (HT & enhancement)
3. Gained choose-the-blocker ability completes (Provisions)

Unless there's been a rule change that I missed, that's not quite correct.

1. Hero abilities complete
2. Provisions completes
3. Abilities triggered by the Hero entering battle completes (Hidden Treasures)
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 11:51:39 PM »
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I agree with gabe once again.  :o
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 11:52:19 PM »
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I'm pretty sure CTB abilities are always last...
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 01:06:08 AM »
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You don't have to take my word for it.  :)

Quote from: Bryon on April 28, 2009, 01:28:54 AM
Choose the blocker happens last.  Hidden Treasures is a response, though, so it happens AFTER you've already selected the blocker.  So, you had to first choose a legal blocker.

Quote from: TimMierz on March 26, 2009, 01:05:51 PM
Hidden Treasures cannot insert itself between the abilities on the Hero. The process of "beginning a battle" includes resolving all special abilities - even gained abilities, like Provisions - so Hidden Treasures doesn't allow the playing of an enhancement until a blocker is presented.
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 01:37:18 AM »
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looks like I am now agreeing with a number of people  :-*
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 02:26:20 AM »
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Quote from: BrianGabe on October 15, 2009, 01:06:08 AM
You don't have to take my word for it.  :)
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 02:37:49 AM »
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Huh, I thought all CTB abilities on all cards were delayed until all other triggers and abilities were completed.  After a search, it looks like I reversed steps 7 & 8...

1. Hero leaves hand or territory
2. Hero enters Field of Battle
3. Activate special ability on Hero
4. Activate gained abilities
5. Activate weapon-class abilities
6. Activate banding abilities
7. Activate choose the blocker abilities
8. Activate special abilities triggered by the beginning of battle
9. Declare intent of battle

Apologies...
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 02:45:14 AM »
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It's all good, for years we've been hearing the "CTB last" mantra.
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 03:13:22 PM »
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Quote from: Prof Underwood on October 15, 2009, 02:26:20 AM
Quote from: BrianGabe on October 15, 2009, 01:06:08 AM
You don't have to take my word for it.  :)
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I used to watch that show before school all the time when I was a kid (when they had the kids come on at the end describing the books, I would run into my room, get dress, and get back before they were done :))
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 04:14:48 PM »
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Quote from: Ironica on October 15, 2009, 03:13:22 PM
Quote from: Prof Underwood on October 15, 2009, 02:26:20 AM
Quote from: BrianGabe on October 15, 2009, 01:06:08 AM
You don't have to take my word for it.  :)
Ahhhh, Reading Rainbow will be missed :(

I used to watch that show before school all the time when I was a kid (when they had the kids come on at the end describing the books, I would run into my room, get dress, and get back before they were done :))


Get dress???  I'm hoping your a girl or that's a typo?  hahah lol
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 04:35:43 PM »
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what if you did haggai to lets say joshua?
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 06:45:59 PM »
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HT requires a lone prophet...
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 07:14:51 PM »
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Quote from: sk on October 15, 2009, 06:45:59 PM
HT requires a lone prophet...
no, once they start the battle...
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2009, 07:54:35 PM »
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Quote from: adamfincher on October 15, 2009, 07:14:51 PM
Quote from: sk on October 15, 2009, 06:45:59 PM
HT requires a lone prophet...
no, once they start the battle...

No.....
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Once per turn, if your lone green brigade prophet begins a battle, you may play an Enhancement or discard an Evil Enhancement in an opponent's deck.

My question is: what does the lone mean?  Must your prophet be the only hero in battle, or must he only be the only prophet in battle?  Lone could mean both...  I think it's only hero in battle, but I"m not sure.
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2009, 08:11:04 PM »
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The band happens in Step #3.  At that point, it is no longer a lone prophet in battle, but a prophet and a priest.  When HT was released, it was ruled that "lone" requires that no band at all happens before HT checks (I think the scenario had a Gathered prophet band to ET or something).
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Re: in what order does this activate?
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2009, 02:38:41 AM »
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What if you gathered a prophet, then banded him to Ahimaaz, looked at your opponent's hand and had Ahimaaz run away?  Lone prophet beginning a battle or not as far as HT is concerned?

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