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Complainers
« on: April 06, 2010, 12:43:29 PM »
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Complainers
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 6 / 6 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate all special abilities on opponent’s Heroes. You may exchange a Hero in battle with a Hero in opponent’s territory. • Identifiers: Generic OT Genderless Human • Verse: Numbers 11:1 • Availability: Faith of Fathers (Set 4)

R/A made. Complainers blocks and chooses a hero that will die by the numbers from opponent. Can player making R/A play something on the original hero which will negate the exchange?
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2010, 12:55:21 PM »
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No, any negate must be played on the new hero.  The original hero never gets init.

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Re: Complainers
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2010, 12:55:49 PM »
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Even if it passes init?
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2010, 12:57:41 PM »
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Dying by numbers does not pass special init like dying by SA.  Also, exchange does not qualify either for special init.

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Re: Complainers
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2010, 01:07:44 PM »
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This is from Choose the Blocker/Rescuer in the REG, but it may apply here as well:

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The effect may be interrupted or negated by the character(s) being removed if your opponent gains initiative because of the exchange.

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Re: Complainers
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2010, 01:36:41 PM »
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Marcus is correct.
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2010, 01:45:35 PM »
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Marcus is correct.

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Re: Complainers
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2010, 01:48:35 PM »
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2010, 02:47:52 PM »
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So, you go with a white hero and opponent blocks with Complainers and switches for a non-white hero. If that hero is then losing btn, then you can play Blessings, but if he's winning btn at that point and then Complainers plays a battle winner, you can't play Words of Encouragement to interrupt? Is that the deal?

By the way, while writing this I had a very powerful feeling of déjà vu; I'm sure I've talked about interrupting Complainers or something like that before.
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2010, 02:55:06 PM »
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Yes sir.
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2010, 02:57:08 PM »
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So, you go with a white hero and opponent blocks with Complainers and switches for a non-white hero. If that hero is then losing btn, then you can play Blessings, but if he's winning btn at that point and then Complainers plays a battle winner, you can't play Words of Encouragement to interrupt. Is that the deal?

That is what I hear them saying. Speaking of déjà vu, How did you know that it was an exchange of Mary Magdalene for the Angel in the Path? Seriously.  ???
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2010, 02:59:21 PM »
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Speaking of déjà vu, How did you know that it was an exchange of Mary Magdalene for the Angel in the Path?
Are you talking about me? Did I say that?
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2010, 01:41:05 PM »
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Bump so I can negate with either hero?
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Re: Complainers
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2010, 02:59:36 PM »
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Only if the second hero has initiative vs. Complainers. So if you block my Salome with Complainers and choose Lois, I can play Blessings to negate Complainers. But if you choose Gabriel, I could not play Blessings (or any other enhancement) since it's your initiative.
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