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What is the exact ability? I don't have the RTS information files (mac compiled it into an app), and redemption live doesn't load. I've gone through 4 pages of the search function, but so far can't find the exact ability.

Obadiah's Caves

Protect your green brigade prophets from capture.  Place your Green prophets being removed from the game here instead. Shuffle contents in owners draw pile each upkeep phase. (holds any number of green brigade prophets)

Vs.

Murmuring

Remove all cards except lost souls from one opponents discard pile from the game.

same ruling would apply for forgotten history and wonders forgotten right?

Based on how Chamber of Angels and Dust and Ashes work, I am fairly confident that Obadiah's Caves would "instead" the removal of your green prophets from discard pile via Murmuring and place them in O's Caves.  That clause is an "instead" ability, which targets abilities such as removal from game, not a protect ability.  There is no "in play" or "out of play" when it comes to Instead abilities.

Off the top of my head I was thinking the ability was worded something like "Protect your Green Brigade Prophets from removal from game...". If the wording did NOT include the word instead, would it be able to protect those in d/c pile?

Kirk

Redoubter is 100% correct.

Although this is generally true, we should give credit to where credit is due. Jmhartz was 100% correct in this case. 

Quote from: Professoralstad on March 15, 2013, 10:33:11 AM

Redoubter is 100% correct.

Although this is generally true, we should give credit to where credit is due. Jmhartz was 100% correct in this case. 

Ha, I was very confused when I got to your post YMT, since it was already edited in the original   Though I think we all know that the original post isn't necessarily an accurate one ProfA doesn't make mistakes, so YMT must have been trying to pull a fast one on everybody.

Mod powers ftw!