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Oh thank goodness, I haven't heard anything on that recently.

Quote from: Professoralstad on July 07, 2011, 07:12:33 PM

Kittens is correct.

I posted the same answer first and you said Kittens is correct... favoritism?

Yep. SomeKittens doesn't complain about the game quite as much, so I prefer giving him credit...


Actually, it had to do with the fact that while your explanation was correct, his was more detailed, so someone who wants to know not only the answer, but why it's the answer, should be directed to SomeKittens' post.

This is why the Professor doesn't give me credit....   

YMT is correct.

Quote from: Gabe on July 08, 2011, 02:59:11 PM

Quote from: CJSports on July 08, 2011, 02:55:10 PM

Grapes of Wrath doesn't shuffle Ashael.

I can't find any card named Ashael. Is he a rainbow evil character?

I believe Bryon has issued an official statement that Grapes does shuffle Asahel.

Link?  Sounds good, I just want to see where it's official.

I would also like to see official confirmation of this, since I use that combo in my deck.

Since when are withdraw and shuffle the same thing?...

Grapes of Wrath (TP)
Type: Lamb • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Discard an evil card in battle to shuffle all remaining characters in battle into owners’ decks. If the current rescuer doesn't have the most Redeemed Souls, he may begin a new battle. • Errata: Discard an evil card in battle to shuffle [return] all remaining characters in battle into owners’ decks. If no Heroes remain in battle and the current rescuer doesn't have the most Redeemed Souls, he may begin a new battle. •

lolwut.

Asahel (TP)

Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Red • Ability: 5 / 4 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: May band to an O.T. warrior class human Hero or may choose opponent's male human Evil Character to block. Protect Asahel from withdraw and return abilities. • Play As: May band to an O.T. warrior class human Hero or may choose opponent's male human Evil Character to block [choose opponent]. Protect Asahel from withdraw and return abilities.

Grapes' errata even states that Shuffle = Return. Thus, Asahel should be protected from it.

Frankly, if I see a rainbow made of shoes, I'm running for the hills.

Quote from: Arch Angel on July 08, 2011, 09:13:32 PM

Grapes' errata even states that Shuffle = Return. Thus, Asahel should be protected from it.

There are many REG card entries that have been altered in preparation for the New REG release. Unfortunately, this has caused some confusion without the New REG. I think you will agree that the brackets are not a standard format for an Errata in the REG. For now, until the New REG is released, only the word "shuffle" applies, which Asahel does not protect from.

It's concerning that there are sloppy Errata considering the process needed to get them approved.

In the REG Shuffle is defined as "Return to deck" (or the other way around... I'm not really sure. O_o )

Everyone keeps saying he's not great in T1. This is false.

I agree with this. My friend loves using disciples for offense and he especially loves using Thaddeus

YMT, we're only allowed to disregard play-as that's actually errata. If errata is labeled as errata, it's applicable.

I understand that, and I do not disagree. I thought this was a different circumstance because it uses symbols that are not present in any other REG card entry (the brackets). I was assuming that was a new thing that would part of the New REG.

Besides, I am getting confused now (well.... again...). I thought it was already ruled that Asahel does get shuffled with Grapes. Am I getting that wrong? If that is the ruling, then what is the rationale?

Bryon also has strong reservations about Asahel staying in the field of battle. I think we're actually probably split about 50-50 in the discussion going on. I believe that the correct ruling for this season however, is that he remains.