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The Disciple Killer...
« on: March 09, 2011, 12:03:05 AM »
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not really, just a strategy idea that I hope works...

Player 1:
has 5 disciples in play and starts a rescue with James, Son of Alphaeus (Di) banded to Thadd.

Player 2:
Blocks with Simon the Magic Man.

Player 2:
Plays Babel (CBN) and brings in Fallen Warrior (ki) and Goliath (p)

Player 1:
Heroes withdraw, presents new hero- Mary Mother of James.
Plays Scarlet Line on Mary.

Player 1 makes a successful rescue...

Right?

Question: Does Fallen Warrior gain the */* of the 2 disciples?



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James, Son of Alphaeus (Di)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Purple • Ability: 1 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate special abilities on Evil Characters (and weapons) with toughness X or less. May band to Thaddeus. •
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Thaddeus (Di)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Purple • Ability: 8 / 8 • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect all cards in play, set-aside area, Artifact piles, hands, and decks from Evil Characters with toughness X or less. Cannot be interrupted. •
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Simon the Magician (Ap)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 4 / 6 • Class: None • Special Ability: Enhancements played with Simon may not be interrupted and prevented when played against N.T. Heroes unless Peter or Philip the Evangelist are in play. • Play As: Enhancements played on Simon cannot be negated when blocking N.T. Heroes unless Peter or Philip the Evangelist are in play.
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Babel (Pa)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 1 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: All Evil Characters that holder chooses may enter battle. • Play As: Holder may band any number of Evil Characters into battle.
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Fallen Warrior (Ki)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Fallen Warrior gains the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks. • Play As: Increase Fallen Warrior with the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks (stalemate or defeat). •
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Goliath (P)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 10 / 10 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Return all Heroes in battle to territory (except giant-slayers). Opponent may present a new Hero. Negate all band, draw, and play abilities. Cannot be negated.
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Scarlet Line (Wo)
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: White • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Female Heroes cannot be blocked by a male Evil Character this battle. • Play As: All female Heroes ignore all male Evil Characters. •
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 12:06:40 AM »
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He did not sucessfuly block them because the opponent won the battle. 
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 12:08:31 AM »
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So if player 2 played devourer and it ended there, he would?
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 12:45:19 AM »
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I would say yes
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 09:10:11 AM »
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I would say no because they werent in battle at the time it ended and so he did not defeat them.
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 01:57:13 PM »
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Based on the Potiphar's Wife vs. CtR/Withdraw ruling, I would assume that Fallen Warrior does not "defeat" the 2 disciples and, thus, doesn't gain their abilities.

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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 02:23:39 PM »
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I would say that FW doesn't gain the numbers primarily because James is negating FW's ability.

But in order to successfully block a Hero, you must stop the rescue from happening. That didn't happen, so no gain even if the gain wasn't negated.
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 02:57:07 PM »
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I would say that FW doesn't gain the numbers primarily because James is negating FW's ability.

But in order to successfully block a Hero, you must stop the rescue from happening. That didn't happen, so no gain even if the gain wasn't negated.
So if player 2 played devourer and it ended there, he would?

So if FW's ability wasn't negated (for example- holy of holies)....
And if devourer negated the scarlet line and the rescue was NOT successful...

then would FW gain the abilities?
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 03:26:11 PM »
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I would think so.  I can't wait for the fun of Goliath.
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 03:45:29 PM »
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I would say that FW doesn't gain the numbers primarily because James is negating FW's ability.

But in order to successfully block a Hero, you must stop the rescue from happening. That didn't happen, so no gain even if the gain wasn't negated.
So if player 2 played devourer and it ended there, he would?

So if FW's ability wasn't negated (for example- holy of holies)....
And if devourer negated the scarlet line and the rescue was NOT successful...

then would FW gain the abilities?


Yes.
I would think so.  I can't wait for the fun of Goliath.

Neither can I. I just hope I can convince my wife to travel with me to Regionals and play in a category with my borrowed cards so that I can get two of him...
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 01:46:15 AM »
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lol why your wife just get johnathon to play heh
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 02:27:26 AM »
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lol why your wife just get johnathon to play heh

I've already got dibs on Jonathan...  ;D
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Re: The Disciple Killer...
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 02:28:54 AM »
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lol
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