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Title: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: theselfevident on September 03, 2011, 09:36:48 PM

If an evil character is ignored in the field of battle, are they returned to the holder's territory or can you still play grapes on that character? My confusion comes from the definition of Ignore.

Ignore is a special ability that protects a card from being defeated, harmed, or affected by the ignored card. It also prevents the card with ignore from harming or affecting the ignored card. An ignore card stops an ignored character from entering the Field of Battle. An ignore ability can be a successful blocking or rescuing card. Ignore is the same as “has no effect” and repel.

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: Ken4Christ4ever on September 03, 2011, 09:45:20 PM

Any character that is NOT already in the field of battle and IS ignored CANNOT enter the field of battle.

Any character that IS already in the field of battle and is ignored stays in battle and effectively has infinite initiative to play anything that does not target the character doing the ignoring. In addition, you would definitely be able to use Grapes of Wrath in this situation.

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: theselfevident on September 03, 2011, 09:46:46 PM

Quote from: Ken4Christ4ever on September 03, 2011, 09:45:20 PM

Any character that is NOT already in the field of battle and IS ignored CANNOT enter the field of battle.

Any character that IS already in the field of battle and is ignored stays in battle and effectively has infinite initiative to play anything that does not target the character doing the ignoring. In addition, you would definitely be able to use Grapes of Wrath in this situation.

Thank you for the clarification  :)

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: theselfevident on September 03, 2011, 10:47:34 PM

Follow up ignore ?: If you ignore an evil character in the field of battle, and they don't play any additional cards, do you win the battle? Or is it more like an immune situation?

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: lightningninja on September 03, 2011, 10:59:28 PM

Yes, you win but they don't die.

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: theselfevident on September 03, 2011, 11:00:25 PM

Thank you  :)

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: SomeKittens on September 04, 2011, 01:28:12 AM

Quote from: Ken4Christ4ever on September 03, 2011, 09:45:20 PM

Any character that IS already in the field of battle and is ignored stays in battle and effectively has infinite initiative to play anything that does not target the character doing the ignoring (Unless it interrupts the ignore). In addition, you would definitely be able to use Grapes of Wrath in this situation.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is how it's played.

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: lightningninja on September 04, 2011, 11:37:41 PM

Well yeah, if you negate the ignore then you're not being ignored, so initiative passes.

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: theselfevident on September 05, 2011, 12:35:13 AM

Quote from: SomeKittens on September 04, 2011, 01:28:12 AM

Quote from: Ken4Christ4ever on September 03, 2011, 09:45:20 PM

Any character that IS already in the field of battle and is ignored stays in battle and effectively has infinite initiative to play anything that does not target the character doing the ignoring (Unless it interrupts the ignore). In addition, you would definitely be able to use Grapes of Wrath in this situation.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is how it's played.

So 1. you can negate/interupt an ingore or 2. you cannot negate/interupt an ignore?

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: YourMathTeacher on September 05, 2011, 12:54:18 AM

Ignore, Immune and Protect can all be negated/interrupted/prevented.

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: SomeKittens on September 05, 2011, 10:16:57 AM

As far as I know, the only ability that is intrinsically CBN is "Enhancements played by this dude are CBN"

Title: Re: ignore vs grapes of wrath
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 05, 2011, 10:25:27 AM

Also, "play first" abilities are CBI and "look at/reveal hand" is CBI by default.