Author Topic: Archelaus - Who's Your Daddy? (Read 3454 times)

Gabe · « **on:** September 14, 2009, 09:59:57 AM »

For game play purposes (aka Herod's Treachery) is the crimson no SA EC Archelaus considered a Herod? He was the son of Herod, the Great, historically called Herod Archelaus and part of the line of the Herods.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #1 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:07:33 AM »

Why in the world are you even interested in using him?

JK

adamfincher · « **Reply #2 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:11:32 AM »

he is a herod.

Bryon · « **Reply #3 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:13:22 AM »

He's a Herod

Gabe · « **Reply #4 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:27:15 AM »

Nice. He also had a Samaritan mother so that makes him an evil Samaritan, right?

Bryon · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2009, 01:56:52 PM »

Seriously? Where do you find this information?!?

Korunks · « **Reply #6 on:** September 14, 2009, 02:13:47 PM »

Wikipedia

Archelaus

Gabe · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2009, 02:23:45 PM »

Wikipedia being a questionable source, I'm more inclined to believe the Jewish Encylopedia which sites his mother as a Samaritan woman named Malthace. Herod Antipas is said to be his full brother which would also make him Samaritan I assume?

I also found the information about having a Samaritan mother in The Writings of Flavius Josephus -
War of the Jews: Book 1 - Chapter 33.

Master KChief · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2009, 02:27:09 PM »

the wikipedia entry cites the jewish encyclopedia as a source.

Korunks · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2009, 02:55:27 PM »

Wikipedia is usually a good jumping off point for research, and in this case wikipedia provides a reference to the same material you used. wikipedia isn't perfect but it is handy.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2009, 02:35:07 PM »

ok umm i thought the bible was the only official source for redemption not all these other religious texts thank you.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2009, 02:40:42 PM »

Quote from: Bryon on September 14, 2009, 01:56:52 PM

Seriously? Where do you find this information?!?

LOLOLOL!

I break cards by mixing odd logic + SA's... Gabe breaks cards by doing his research.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2009, 02:53:26 PM »

doing research in non legal sources maybe the bible is the official source for redemption

Soundman2 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2009, 03:00:26 PM »

Quote from: christiangamer25 on September 18, 2009, 02:53:26 PM

doing research in non legal sources maybe the bible is the official source for redemption

that is true but we need some out side sources for where some of the heroes/EC are from what they did

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ok umm i thought the bible was the only official source for redemption not all these other religious texts thank you.

we also use Josephus (but only for a hand full of cards)

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2009, 03:04:45 PM »

except none of it can effect the game if its not quoted in the bible you don't get to use it to effect the game period

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2009, 03:16:03 PM »

Say byebye most of the roman Emperor cards then, as they arent quoted in the bible.

Also, numerous Angel Wars cards.

Bryon · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:01:09 PM »

Does the Bible actually say that Enoch was male? How dare we rule he is a male if the Bible doesn't say it!

Some things can be inferred. Some things can be found out in history books and other references.

History backs up the Bible, and fills in some of the details. We read in the Bible that Archelaus was the son of Herod the Great, and thus he is a Herod. But we don't read who his mom was. In an encyclopedia or a history book, it is mentioned that Archelaus is the son of Herod (good, the reference book is correct in at least that point, and so we can reasonably assume it is likely correct on who the mother is), and it says his mother was a Samaritan. Interesting fact! The reference does not contradict scripture and is accepted as fact by Bible history scholars. We can trust it at least as far as this game goes, if not further.

Master KChief · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:06:02 PM »

history books also tell us the earth is 4 billion years old, yet this isnt exactly accepted by biblical standards.

The Guardian · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2009, 06:56:02 PM »

That can of worms has been opened many times already, let's keep this topic on topic.

lightningninja · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2009, 06:57:37 PM »

I agree. Cool find Gabe... What set is that again? lol I've never heard of that...

Master KChief · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2009, 06:59:24 PM »

the point is secular 'history books' should probably not be used to try and validate a game based on the bible.

The Guardian · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:04:18 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on September 18, 2009, 06:57:37 PM

I agree. Cool find Gabe... What set is that again? lol I've never heard of that...

Archelaus is from Apostles.

Quote from: Master KChief on September 18, 2009, 06:59:24 PM

the point is secular 'history books' should probably not be used to try and validate a game based on the bible.

I would say that legitimate history books that do not conflict with the Bible are okay to be used as sources of information.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #22 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:04:37 PM »

Redemption left the entirely-bible-based game a long time ago when it printed St. Patrick and the Emperors. I think we can use 'secular' books to validate as much as is desired now.

Master KChief · « **Reply #23 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:06:43 PM »

Quote from: The Guardian on September 18, 2009, 07:04:18 PM

I would say that legitimate history books that do not conflict with the Bible are okay to be used as sources of information.

so what about the legitimate history books that do conflict with the bible? talk about a double standard.

The Guardian · « **Reply #24 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:11:36 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 18, 2009, 07:06:43 PM

Quote from: The Guardian on September 18, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
I would say that legitimate history books that do not conflict with the Bible are okay to be used as sources of information.

so what about the legitimate history books that do conflict with the bible? talk about a double standard.

Being in alignment with the Word of God IS the standard, it's not a double standard.

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