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If Ram's Horn's wording is definitionally impossible, it doesn't do anything except site removal without an errata. Intention doesn't matter when interpreting abilities, just in making erratas which are used sparingly. If you want to argue like that who's to say that Ram's Horn shouldn't say "Abilities on enhancements used by Warrior class heroes.." When Guardian talked about it earlier in another thread he mentioned that if it were made today.... and I just assumed exchanging "played by" for "used by" was for clarity's sake. I see now that the card does not function haha

The point still stands, however, about THS and ML. If triggers are not activated when the condition are met and their effects just "occur" then how can someone "use" the search ability on THS when it is triggered? Doesn't use mean activated?

I can't find it under "U" or types of abilities. I am not sure where else to look. This is the right link? https://www.cactusgamedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/REG_PDF_4.1.2.pdf

the W's!!!

I read it, use makes more sense, however, there may be a better phrase to use then "activated" for optional abilities as apparently triggers are not activated. Or are triggers allowed to be activated again now that Ram's Horn has outdated wording? 

Yes everywhere the REG refers to "activating" a trigger should say "triggering" instead to avoid using a word already defined as something else.

My two cents on this thread, the fact that a thread like this even exists kind of proves the confusion of rules in regards to not being clearly defined anywhere but a massive document no one has time to read. Again, rules ought to be intuitive to the game.

That's simply not possible. Magic doesn't do it either. Magic defines its keywords and a few other simple things on the cards but there are at least as many unintuitive things in MtG and Redemption if not more. For example the other day I saw a lethal puzzle where the solution ended up being to use an activated ability on an artifact to clone a creature that could pay an energy to give itself flying, use that ability, then while this is all still on the stack to use the clone ability a second time to copy a 10/10 (normally that would not have flying) and the resulting effect is that the flying gained by the activated ability of the first cloned creature applied to the cloned 10/10. I've read the relevant rules and that still wasn't remotely clear to me as a possibility of that interaction but someone was able to cite the rules that made it work that way. Every card game has complicated and unintuitive interactions and it's absolutely impossible to put much beyond basic ability descriptions on the cards themselves.

Having to look up long definitions of ability interactions is not a problem, the only problem is that for Redemption, many of those definitions are incomplete or even entirely non-existent.