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1. Well, that's an excellent question. Maybe it's time for the monthly "define play" begging session and subsequent forgetting-about by the PTB 2. Yes.
I'm fairly certain Pot's Wife does not capture if she's not in battle when battle resolution happens regardless of the outcome of the battle. In the case of Failed Objective and its ilk, the hero actually wins the battle, so I definitely don't see any reason why Pot's Wife's ability would capture anything.
Potiphar's Wife will not capture a male Hero if she is discarded to Failed Objective.PW must defeat the Hero to capture them. Although the block is successful because FO protects the Souls from rescue, Potipher's Wife is the one who is defeated. The Hero wins the battle, it just happens to be a battle challenge instead of rescue attempt.Potiphar’s WifeType: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gold • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: None • Special Ability: When character defeats a male Hero in the Field of Battle, the Hero is taken prisoner and placed in your opponent's Land of Bondage and treated as a Lost Soul. • Play As: All male characters defeated (by a win or stalemate) by Potiphar’s Wife in battle are taken prisoner and placed in your opponent's Land of Bondage and treated as a Lost Soul. Failed ObjectiveType: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Gold • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Discard all Evil Characters in battle. All Lost Souls are protected from being rescued by Heroes this turn.
From the previous time this came up...I would think that Dust and Ashes would be different, however, because it triggers if Job is harmed or defeated by an opponent. A character being defeated by an opponent is different from a character defeating an opponent. Whomever loses an RA to Failed objective has lost to an opponent, but the EC playing Failed objective did not do the defeating--Failed Objective did. At least that is how I see it?
No. Gabe is correct.
By that logic if I play Rizpahs sackcloth pot didn't defeat the hero, rizpah did. Essentially her ability would never work.
I am not going to argue semantics, I agree with you on the ruling though. I was simply saying that DA and job vs tremblers is the same concept.
DefeatDefeat is caused when a character’s toughness is less than or equal to an opposing character’s strength. A defeat also occurs when a character is stopped from achieving his goal in battle. A Hero(es) is defeated when the Hero(es) in battle are discarded, repelled or otherwise fails to make a successful rescue such as in a stalemate. The Evil Character(s) is defeated when the Evil Character(s) in battle are discarded, ignored or otherwise fails to stop the Hero from making a successful rescue such as in a mutual destruction by numbers.
So if Pot's Wife played the enhancement to cause it, then she was the one who defeated the Hero. If the Hero starts a BC, then the only way to be defeated is if it is blocked and does not discard/ignore/otherwise remove all blocking EC(s) from battle.
Potiphar's Wife will not capture a male Hero if she is discarded to Failed Objective.PW must defeat the Hero to capture them. Although the block is successful because FO protects the Souls from rescue, Potipher's Wife is the one who is defeated. The Hero wins the battle, it just happens to be a battle challenge instead of rescue attempt.
Harm, I believe, is being affected by anything not of the same alignment. I.e.: Writ would even send Job to D&A, I think.
It's a good thing the special ability on D&A is optional.
