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How does SoV work?
« on: October 29, 2010, 05:11:31 PM »
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http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=23760.0 is the thread that made me wonder this. An elder has posted on that thread, I just wanna clear some stuff up.

Saint of Virtue (Ki)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Purple • Ability: 8 / 2 • Class: None • Special Ability: Saint of Virtue may keep one enhancement with a reference from Ephesians 6 until Hero is discarded. This Hero is the same gender as this card's owner. • Play As: Holder may place one Ephesians 6 enhancement, regardless of brigade on Hero until Hero is discarded [use other enhancements]. • Identifiers: Generic NT Male
Female Human • Verse: II Peter 1:3 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Uncommon)

1.) So, I make a RA with my SOV. Can I place whatever the silver/green ignore card is that I can't remember the name of on him? I know it won't activate.
2.) I RA with my GREEN SOV. Can I play the aforementioned enhancement pre block? (And then it activates?)



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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 05:12:12 PM »
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HAHA! Spiritual Warfare. Now I remember.

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 05:21:26 PM »
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1: Yes
2: Not pre-block but it can hold it after
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 05:22:10 PM »
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"Holder may place an enhancement on SOV....."

That seems like it should work pre block.....

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 05:26:40 PM »
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agree, i dont see any reason it wouldnt work pre-block based on the play-as.
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2010, 05:49:11 PM »
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I have no idea why that Play As is there, that's not at all how SoV should be/has been played...I'm not sure how that happened. It is possible to get SoV to hold Spiritual Warfare, but not that easy.

I'm also not sure why the identifier says SoV is male...
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 05:52:45 PM »
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Thats a good point about the identifier. If I RA with SoV while CoM is up, is it both male and female? Thats just wrong, Cactus.

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 07:04:14 PM »
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The gender portion of the SA is meant to be an identifier, I'm sure we can easily add that to the play as.
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 07:14:02 PM »
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Identifiers: Generic NT Male
Female Human

The identifier is just split on two lines.
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 11:58:14 PM »
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is Spiritual Warfare from Ephesians 6?

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2010, 12:12:43 AM »
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is Spiritual Warfare from Ephesians 6?
Yes indeed.

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2010, 12:14:56 AM »
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so do we play sov as the play-as suggests?
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2010, 12:19:28 AM »
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I have no idea why that Play As is there, that's not at all how SoV should be/has been played...I'm not sure how that happened

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2010, 01:02:43 AM »
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Always disregard "play-as" that's actually errata.
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2010, 01:27:46 AM »
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In order for SW to activate on SoV, Saint must be the same brigade as SW, right? You can't just use Cheribum and band to SoV and have it work because it wasn't placed on Cheribum, correct?
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2010, 02:12:49 AM »
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Always disregard "play-as" that's actually errata.
Except we have no possible way to know it is an errata unless we know the Redemption definition of "keeps" (not listed in the REG), especially when an elder seemed to indicate that it was indeed a place.

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2010, 03:47:20 AM »
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It's quite obvious that there's no possible way the original wording would be a "place" ability that would happen pre-block. The original wording is quite murky, but that "play-as" is clearly not just clearing up what it said in bad wording.
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2010, 01:05:06 PM »
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This is Redemption. I wouldn't be surprised if keep was a capture ability.

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2010, 01:14:51 PM »
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This is Redemption. I wouldn't be surprised if keep was a capture ability.

The REG would have to distinguish the verb "keep" with the noun "keep." A keep is more closely akin to a fortress.
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2010, 10:21:14 AM »
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So you can place Spiritual Warfare on a green Saint of Virtue before battle?
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2010, 11:23:09 AM »
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So then do you have to play it in battle, THEN it stays on SoV?
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2010, 12:17:05 PM »
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So you can place Spiritual Warfare on a green Saint of Virtue before battle?
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2010, 12:18:19 PM »
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Yes. SoV allows you to play it pre battle. Don't listen to anyone on this thread but me, listen to the REG.

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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2010, 08:23:42 PM »
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let me ask...

Can I place Spiritual Warfare on Saint of Virtue when I attack?
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Re: How does SoV work?
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2010, 08:55:14 PM »
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let me ask...

Can I place Spiritual Warfare on Saint of Virtue when I attack?
according to the play-as that is correct.

 


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