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Does Household Idols prevent Mary Mother of James from Banding to Salome, Mary Magdalene and/or Joanna if The Garden Tomb is in play?

Mary Mother of James cannot even enter battle while Household Idols is active (it's ignoring her).  So technically it doesn't prevent her banding ability, but it does keep her banding ability from working.

I have MMOJ and Salome in my territory. My opponent has TGT in his territory, but mine hasn't come out yet.  Can my hero's use MMOJ's CBN banding status because his TGT is in play and use the ignore ability from his TGT against his EC's during a rescue attempt?

The cannot be negated ability on Mary Mother of James doesn't care who The Garden Tomb belongs to, just that it is in play, so an opponent's TGT would make her banding unnegateable.

The ignoring benefit of The Garden Tomb applies to all Garden Tomb heroes regardless of which player controls them, so yes your characters can ignore his evil characters because of his The Garden Tomb.  Be careful though, the condition (that the opponent must have a redeemed soul) is from the perspective of the player with The Garden Tomb even if it's being used against them, so to use your opponents The Garden Tomb to ignore you have to have a redeemed soul to satisfy the condition.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Any character who has the potential to band is considered a banding card. Household Idols ignores banding cards, which means banding cards cannot enter battle when HHI is active.

Am I hearing this right? 

Any hero with a special ability that says "May band" cannot even enter battle by themself?  So does Wool Fleece do the same thing and prevent a "May band" EC from blocking by themself?

The REG says Wool Fleece is a prevent. Which is good, imo. Demons have enough to worry about.

Thanks, but this makes little sense to me.  It makes sense that I may not band.  But what is the justification for me not being able to enter battle by myself?

Household Idols has a "Play As" in the REG:

Household Idols
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Heroes may not band. Good banding cards have no effect. • Play As: Banding of Heroes is prevented. Good banding cards are ignored. • Identifiers: NT, Depicts an Idol, False Religious Practice • Verse: I Corinthians 12:2 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Ultra Rare)

The "ignore" ability in the "Play As" is what is causing the hero to not even enter battle. Wool Fleece is only a prevent, not a prevent and ignore. Household Idols is much more powerful.

a banding card is a card that can perform the action of banding. coth is not a banding card.

This seems highly inconsistent....

It doesn't really maker sense that HHI and Wool Fleece would be treated differently (especially with the evil one being more powerful knowing Redemption's mantra of giving the good side more powerful cards). Why is one treated as merely a prevent and the other as a prevent and ignore? "Good banding cards have no effect" seems more like clarifying text than an ignore effect to me because entering battle isn't an "effect".