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Household Idols
« on: September 11, 2011, 10:33:10 AM »
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Please advise how HHI stands. Is it a prevent, protect, or restrict and how does it work when someone is banding with a CBN banding ability?
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 10:39:20 AM »
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Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Heroes may not band. Good banding cards have no effect. • Play As: Prevent band abilities of Heroes. Ignore good banding cards. • Identifiers: NT, Depicts an Idol, False Religious Practice • Verse: I Corinthians 12:2 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Ultra Rare)

That means heroes with banding abilities can never enter battle while this artifact is active, making it a protect. Restrict deals with player actions, Protect deals with what can be targetted and in this case it targets all cards with banding abilities (characters and enhancements) to not be able to enter battle regardless if the band cannot be stopped once in battle.

I hope that clarifies things a bit.
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 10:40:29 AM »
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Quote from: TechnoEthicist on September 11, 2011, 10:39:20 AM
That means heroes with banding abilities can never enter battle while this artifact is active, making it a protect an ignore.

FTFY
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 10:42:40 AM »
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Quote from: TechnoEthicist on September 11, 2011, 10:39:20 AM
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Heroes may not band. Good banding cards have no effect. • Play As: Prevent band abilities of Heroes. Ignore good banding cards. • Identifiers: NT, Depicts an Idol, False Religious Practice • Verse: I Corinthians 12:2 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Ultra Rare)

That means heroes with banding abilities can never enter battle while this artifact is active, making it a protect. Restrict deals with player actions, Protect deals with what can be targetted and in this case it targets all cards with banding abilities (characters and enhancements) to not be able to enter battle regardless if the band cannot be stopped once in battle.

I hope that clarifies things a bit.

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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 08:54:14 AM »
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Household Idols is exactly what the play as says it is: an ignore, that stops banding heroes from entering battle, and a prevent, which stops banding enhancements from activating. It is not a protect at all.
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 10:54:35 AM »
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I also wanted to mirror Gabe and Prof A.

It's always been ruled as an Ignore.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2011, 01:28:59 PM by Lamborghini_diablo »
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2011, 11:00:13 AM »
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Apologies, I used the wrong definition...sometimes my mind reverts back to the old rock, paper, and scissors concept without going into further detail. I see why it needed further clarification....
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2011, 11:03:05 AM »
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2011, 11:18:00 AM »
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He's getting a bit Norse, Professor Ülstaadt.
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2011, 11:26:28 AM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 12, 2011, 11:18:00 AM
He's getting a bit Norse, Professor Ülstaadt.

Our family heritage is 100% Norwegian on our father's side... :)
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2011, 12:00:32 PM »
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So Seven Years of Famine will negate Household Idols?

Seven Years of Famine
"If used by a Genesis character, place in your territory for 7 turns: Negate draw and ignore abilities. During each player’s upkeep, if their hand is 7 or more, they must discard 1."
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2011, 12:20:52 PM »
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Quote from: Captain Kirk on September 12, 2011, 12:00:32 PM
So Seven Years of Famine will negate Household Idols?

Seven Years of Famine
"If used by a Genesis character, place in your territory for 7 turns: Negate draw and ignore abilities. During each player’s upkeep, if their hand is 7 or more, they must discard 1."

Yessir
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2011, 12:28:12 PM »
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It will negate the ignore portion. It will still stop any preventable banding.
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2011, 01:09:00 PM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 12, 2011, 12:28:12 PM
It will negate the ignore portion. It will still stop any preventable banding.

Right. That's what I meant to specify as well.
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2011, 01:30:24 PM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on September 12, 2011, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 12, 2011, 10:54:35 AM
Gabe and Prof U.

Ouch, Lambo, that hurts...

:rollin:

Sorry about that... that's what happens when I post early in the day with 4 hours of sleep.
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Re: Household Idols
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2011, 01:56:48 PM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on September 12, 2011, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 12, 2011, 10:54:35 AM
Gabe and Prof U.
Ouch, Lambo, that hurts...
Personally I think you should take it as a compliment :)
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