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Title: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Kor on August 14, 2015, 06:39:46 PM
Can someone please explain how household idols works with the new rules?

1.  If you attack with a banding hero out of hand

a) Can an ignored hero rescue a soul if the hero is not blocked?
b) If blocked can the ignored hero use cards that effect the evil characters as the hero is being ignored by HHI not the evil characters?
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Praeceps on August 14, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
A) Is the hero's ability cbp or cbn? If not, then your hero can rescue, but cannot band.
B) HHI ignore is functionally only the 3rd portion. All it can do is try to keep heroes out of battle, once they are in battle HHI's ignore does nothing to them.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Redoubter on August 14, 2015, 10:57:55 PM
A) Is the hero's ability cbp or cbn? If not, then your hero can rescue, but cannot band.
B) HHI ignore is functionally only the 3rd portion. All it can do is try to keep heroes out of battle, once they are in battle HHI's ignore does nothing to them.

Not quite.  The 4th aspect is still in play, treating characters as if they are not in battle for Battle Resolution.  So they cannot rescue on their own.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Praeceps on August 14, 2015, 11:57:14 PM
Huh, I thought part four only activated if a character was doing the ignoring. Learn something new.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: TheJaylor on August 15, 2015, 12:30:22 AM
Can a Daniel played from hand and banded to Michael rescue a Lost Soul in a green site if HHI is active?
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Redoubter on August 15, 2015, 12:49:29 AM
Can a Daniel played from hand and banded to Michael rescue a Lost Soul in a green site if HHI is active?

No, not how I understand how HHI works.  Unless another Judge wants to disagree or if anyone has something else to point to.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: wyatt_marcum on August 15, 2015, 03:06:57 AM
I thought that HHI was a protect ability. I dont see how it would be changed with the new ruling.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Drrek on August 15, 2015, 03:08:21 AM
I thought that HHI was a protect ability. I dont see how it would be changed with the new ruling.

HHI is not and has not been a protect ability.  It has not been changed to ignore, it simply has been an ignore for quite a while now.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Nameless on August 15, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
I have been gone for a while, what about ignore has changed?
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: kram1138 on August 15, 2015, 11:07:03 AM
The main thing is that it now only targets cards in play, by default, so a character from hand, or anywhere else not in play, can still enter battle, even if they are being ignored.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Redoubter on August 15, 2015, 02:18:08 PM
I have been gone for a while, what about ignore has changed?

For more details on new rules and rulings, see this thread (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/redemption-official-rules/new-rulings-for-the-2015-2016-redemption-season-36320/).
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: TheHobbit13 on August 15, 2015, 02:55:03 PM
Cornelius ftw!
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: kariusvega on August 15, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
can they still band if they are cbn/cbp? and also would a cbn banding ability allow for other characters to band in?
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: Drrek on August 15, 2015, 03:17:56 PM
can they still band if they are cbn/cbp? and also would a cbn banding ability allow for other characters to band in?

They can band if they are CBN/CBP so long as they don't try to bring in another banding hero.
Title: Re: Household Idols after ignore changes
Post by: TheJaylor on August 16, 2015, 03:09:44 PM
can they still band if they are cbn/cbp? and also would a cbn banding ability allow for other characters to band in?

They can band if they are CBN/CBP so long as they don't try to bring in another banding hero.
Unless the other banding hero is on their hand, of course.  :P
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