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I think yes, But I'm still confused on how withdraw works nowadays - we've discussed changing it a few times....

Yeah, that thought had crossed my mind too, so thats another reason I wasn't sure....

If highway is a cost - benefit (withdraw to return) then you would never get the chance to play a second highway before you withdraw and return from the first highway.

Battle Prayer...trust me it's a mess...

The difference is that Momentum Change is a triggered ability and both activate at the same time so they each refuse to allow themselves the privilege of returning to your hand. Highway, on the other hand, is an instantaneous SA so by the time the second one is played the first one's SA exempting itself from return is no longer active.

It is worth noting that most of the truly nasty play-for-an-hour combos require some form of this type of recursion. If this class of enhancements were specifically defined to exclude themselves from return, there would be little exigent need for the hand-limit ruling.

Mr. Brinkman has it on the nose here.  Basically you continnually band some people in, do your thing, play highway and return your cards to hand, the copy of highway goes to a gold brigade hero if applicable or the d/c Pile if not and then you play y our enhancements on the hero you handed into battle using another copy of highway (or the same one if you can fish it out of the d/c pile and it is not stuck on another gold brigade hero in battle)  If it IS stuck on another gold brigade hero from a previous hero's enhancements, the rule is that a second copy of Highway returns the original highway to hand along with all the other enhancements, and in this way you can keep churning out whatever you are trying to do.

Hopefully with some immunity blocking in a brigade your opponents not using

Even if they do have that, there are ways around that or ways you can avoid that.  Using card SA's to look at their hand before hand and remove offending cards such as using High places and fearfulness is one way around it.  but yeah, if they dont have that brigade it makes it much easier.