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Offline Jonesy

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Grapes/instead
« on: September 28, 2014, 10:35:17 AM »
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If i instead grapes discard do cards still get shuffled and new ra or does the battle keep going?
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Offline Minion of Jesus

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Re: Grapes/instead
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2014, 10:42:16 AM »
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Battle would continue, since the first part of the ability did not finish, the second can't happen.
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Re: Grapes/instead
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2014, 06:53:41 PM »
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The general rule is that when there is a cost-benefit ("Do X to Y"), you only get the benefit if the cost happens.  With Instead, it 'never happened' and the new effect happened 'instead', so you don't get the benefit.
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Re: Grapes/instead
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2014, 08:57:49 PM »
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To that point, it has happened on more than one occasion that my only EC to block with is a lone Wandering Spirit. The first time, I wanted to use Grapes defensively to stop my opponent's 5th rescue. The second my opponent used his Grapes effectively as an AotL. In neither case did I have a Gates of Hell available to get him out.
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Re: Grapes/instead
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 11:01:42 PM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on October 03, 2014, 08:57:49 PM
To that point, it has happened on more than one occasion that my only EC to block with is a lone Wandering Spirit. The first time, I wanted to use Grapes defensively to stop my opponent's 5th rescue. The second my opponent used his Grapes effectively as an AotL. In neither case did I have a Gates of Hell available to get him out.

That is indeed a wretched fate.
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