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Title: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: The Spy on October 23, 2008, 11:14:10 AM
Just a Hireling
Black/Gray EE
No numerical abilities
SA: Discard your sadducee or Pharisee to shuffle up to three Lost Souls into deck.

Well, I think the special ability should probably be read as this:
SA: Discard your sadducee or Pharisee to shuffle up to three Lost Souls into owners' decks.

Otherwise, I might shuffle the Hopper Lost Soul into my own deck... but that would go against Redemption rules. Am I correct in this assumption that no player can shuffle the card of another player into his own deck?

This card confuses me a little because there have been new cards like Queen Taphenes that take control of opponent's cards, and I just want to make sure that Just a Hireling is not one of them.
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: JSB23 on October 23, 2008, 11:15:52 AM
You are correct, when shuffled all cards reset and go back to their owners (unless it says for remainder of game)
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: The Spy on October 23, 2008, 11:17:01 AM
You are correct, when shuffled all cards reset and go back to their owners (unless it says for remainder of game)
Yeah, that is what I thought... and hoped. Thanks.
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: TimMierz on October 23, 2008, 12:52:02 PM
Any card, when about to go to any deck or discard pile, goes to its owner's pile instead.
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: The Guardian on October 23, 2008, 12:54:29 PM
JSB is correct and here's just a bit of an explanation. When writing special abilities, we (the playtesters) try to keep the amount of necessary text to a minimum so that card art can be fully appreciated. One example is that whenever a card says "deck" the default meaning is "owner's deck."
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: Master KChief on October 23, 2008, 01:14:05 PM
i always thought redemption should offer 'extended art' cards, where well-known cards are reprinted with the art box extended (usually spanning the entire card) and no text on it whatsoever to obstruct the illustration. i know most of the upper deck tcg's offer it...i think it'd make for some cool prizes for redemption as well. talk about art appreciation :)
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: JSB23 on October 23, 2008, 01:44:24 PM
they would be unusable then
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 23, 2008, 02:02:38 PM
they would be unusable then
True but they would be a neat collectors item.`
Title: Re: Hi all, I have a Rock of Ages card question...
Post by: The Spy on October 23, 2008, 03:06:34 PM
Any card, when about to go to any deck or discard pile, goes to its owner's pile instead.
"Tis what I assumed, but it never hurts to ask.

JSB is correct and here's just a bit of an explanation. When writing special abilities, we (the playtesters) try to keep the amount of necessary text to a minimum so that card art can be fully appreciated. One example is that whenever a card says "deck" the default meaning is "owner's deck."
And I do appreciate it. Just want to make sure that I am playing the card correctly.
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