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Title: Helmet of Brass
Post by: RTSmaniac on January 10, 2011, 10:25:00 AM: Helmet of Brass (Ki)
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 0 / 5 • Class: Weapon • Special Ability: Hero may play the first enhancement after blocker is presented. Any time during battle, holder may discard Helmet of Brass to return bearer being discarded to your territory. • Play As: Hero may play the next enhancement after blocker is presented. Any time during battle, holder may discard Helmet of Brass to heal bearer being discarded. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon, Connected with David • Verse: I Samuel 17:38 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Common)

Is HoB considered a heal card?
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 11:27:20 AM: Yes, it has a heal ability. However, I'm unsure if you can play it anytime you would a healing card
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: Minister Polarius on January 10, 2011, 09:51:03 PM: No. Disregard any Play-As that is actually Errata.
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: browarod on January 11, 2011, 02:12:29 AM: Quote from: Minister Polarius on January 10, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
No. Disregard any Play-As that is actually Errata.
The play-as IS a play-as, though. What exactly is "return bearer being discarded to your territory" if not a heal?
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: Minister Polarius on January 11, 2011, 03:55:02 AM: Sounds more like an instead than a heal to me.
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: CJSports on January 11, 2011, 10:23:48 AM: Yeah i feel like the dude would have to be holding HoB.
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: STAMP on January 11, 2011, 10:29:30 AM: Quote from: Minister Polarius on January 11, 2011, 03:55:02 AM
Sounds more like an instead than a heal to me.

+1
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: browarod on January 11, 2011, 10:45:31 AM: Quote from: Minister Polarius on January 11, 2011, 03:55:02 AM
Sounds more like an instead than a heal to me.
I don't see the word "instead" in the special ability anymore than you see "heal". Also, heals played during battle are effectively insteads, yes, but that doesn't suddenly make them not heal abilities.
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: Minister Polarius on January 11, 2011, 10:51:10 AM: Come on, you're smarter than that. So if I put out a Hero holding Helmet of Brass who has contracted Leprosy, you play CM, and I use Helmet of Brass, he's been cured of Leprosy? There is very good reason to believe it's an instead and not a heal.
Title: Re: Helmet of Brass
Post by: Professoralstad on January 11, 2011, 02:56:08 PM: Quote from: Minister Polarius on January 10, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
No. Disregard any Play-As that is actually Errata.

On that note, I would like to announce that there is an active effort on the part of the Elders to go through every card and fix Play-As's that are missing, mistermed, or poorly worded. Pending completion and Rob's approval, we will have a reference thread for any problem cards currently in the REG.