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Offline Lex1122

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Negate, negate, and then negate
« on: July 11, 2018, 11:41:44 AM »
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My opponent takes hero out. I take evil character. By number the hero has initiative. He plays a discard a EC. I negate that card. He negate my negate. I play A NEGATE THE LAST ENHANCEMENT card. Which is his negate. Simple senario. This is how’s its played correct? Or can you please correct.
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Re: Negate, negate, and then negate
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2018, 12:00:18 PM »
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Given only the information that you gave. Yes.

If you have specific cards in a scenario, it helps to bring correct nuisance to a rules question. Right now, yes, you are negating the last card, that negated another card that negated another card, leaving the first card (discard Evil Character) resolving.

Ability A (Discard EC)
Negate A :Target Ability A (results in no discard EC)
Negate B: Target Negate A, (results in discard EC )
Negate C: Target Negate B, (results in no discard EC)
Negate D: Target Last Enhancement:Negate C (results in Discard EC)
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Re: Negate, negate, and then negate
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 12:13:29 PM »
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Quote from: Lex1122 on July 11, 2018, 11:41:44 AM
My opponent takes hero out. I take evil character. By number the hero has initiative. He plays a discard a EC. I negate that card. He negate my negate. I play A NEGATE THE LAST ENHANCEMENT card. Which is his negate. Simple senario. This is how’s its played correct? Or can you please correct.

I've highlighted a sentence above - you are actually not able to play this card.  In Special Initiative, you can only target the ability or card that is causing your character's removal from battle.  In this case, that is the "Discard an EC" card.  Your enhancement targets the last enhancement played by your opponent, and thus isn't targeting the actual source of your removal from battle.
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Re: Negate, negate, and then negate
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2018, 01:06:47 PM »
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^Josh is correct.

If it is not a Special Initiative situation (you have 2 ECs in battle, only one of which is being discarded) then you are correct that you can negate the card that negated your first negate.
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Re: Negate, negate, and then negate
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 01:58:57 PM »
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For further clarification, if the last enhancement you played was an “interrupt the battle and discard an enhancement” or something along those lines, it would work because it is interrupting the ability that is removing you from battle, then you can target the enhancement while it is interrupted.

In this case you could also target the first enhancement directly with that, but it could matter.
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Re: Negate, negate, and then negate
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 04:34:11 PM »
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I was assuming the OP was talking about discarding an EC not in battle. Due to Special initiative.

This is also why i said naming real cards helps a ton.
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