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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: crustpope on March 06, 2011, 10:40:08 PM
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Shobach (P)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gray • Ability: 9 / 6 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: May use and hold weapons of any brigade. May band to a generic Syrian. • Play As: May use and hold weapons of any brigade [use other enhancements]. May band to a generic Syrian. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, King & Commander (Syria), Royalty, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: II Samuel 10:16
As he reads he cannot hold the weapons in the territory if they are another color because the SA will no longer be active in territory. Has this been fixed or is this another card going the way of the Split Altar.
Once again we all "know" what this card was suppose to do, but are we going to let it do it because the language is incorrect.
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soooo. 13 looks and no one knows anything? really?
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I'm dumb, I don't know anything. BUT at least I posted :D
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For now, I'd go with what he should be.
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They really should have made his ability an identifier, and I'm not sure why they didn't.
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yeah, that should have been how it was handled oro they should have added the words "While in play"....but they didnt
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I believe the new REG will explain that all "holds" abilities are actually identifiers if that has not already been established.
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Really? Meaning you can put a weapon on him in territory?
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Will Split Altar work the way it's intended to with the new REG?
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I believe the new REG will explain that all "holds" abilities are actually identifiers if that has not already been established.
Soo we will improve the status of Shobach based on how the card is worded but not split altar? interesting....
and split altar works...just not as it was intended to work.
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Is Thaddeus protected from face-down cards?
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Is Thaddeus protected from face-down cards?
no
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Well then it makes sense that Split Altar does not shuffle artifact piles. Sure, it makes it useless, but...
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I believe the new REG will explain that all "holds" abilities are actually identifiers if that has not already been established.
The way I heard it is that "holds" abilities are inherently "while in play". So that once Shobach (or red David) enters battle, they can hold a weapon class enhancement of any evil (or good) brigade (except silver) just like any WC character of that color while they are in play.
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I believe the new REG will explain that all "holds" abilities are actually identifiers if that has not already been established.
The way I heard it is that "holds" abilities are inherently "while in play". So that once Shobach (or red David) enters battle, they can hold a weapon class enhancement of any evil (or good) brigade (except silver) just like any WC character of that color while they are in play.
That makes sense
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identifiers have to be activated in battle in order to work?
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identifiers have to be activated in battle in order to work?
no
...I'm only smart enough for yes/no, sorry for lack of an explanation :P
.......EDIT- sometimes^
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identifiers have to be activated in battle in order to work?
That is my question too. I think the answer to that is "no". Therefore, the previous explanation of how Shobach works also doesn't seem to work.
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identifiers have to be activated in battle in order to work?
That is my question too. I think the answer to that is "no". Therefore, the previous explanation of how Shobach works also doesn't seem to work.
No, identifiers don't. However, I have never heard that a "holds" special ability is considered an identifier even if it isn't written in the identifier line, so I'm not sure where Justin heard that from. I was just explaining how I thought his ability worked.