Author Topic: Great Faith(wo) (Read 8481 times)

RTSmaniac · « **on:** January 19, 2011, 02:19:57 AM »

Can Great Faith(wo) search for an evil card?

Great Faith (Wo)
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Purple • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Holder may search own draw pile and exchange this card with another enhancement card, then shuffle. • Errata: Exchange this enhancement with another good enhancement in your deck (you may place in hand or add to battle). • Identifiers: NT, Spiritual Gift • Verse: Matthew 15:28 • Availability: Women booster packs (Uncommon)

adotson85 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2011, 02:25:01 AM »

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19440.msg304022#msg304022

Newb

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2011, 02:31:37 AM »

some playtesters would argue with you sir because it says ERRATA and i have a feeling no matter what polarius says this one is going to stick.

The Guardian · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2011, 02:35:15 AM »

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Hey,

There is something wrong with the play as. Similar to what happened with Battle Prayer, the additional condition (the requirement for the card to be good) that was added to the reprint somehow got into the play as for the original. Great Faith (the women's version) can still get an evil enhancement.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

This refers to when the REG listed it as a "Play As" which was wrong. The current version of the REG states that it is an errata so it is a legitimate entry. I'm not sure when or why, but that is the current ruling. That entry, (along with many other questionable REG entries that have not been amended to this point), is being reviewed by the Elders and playtesters.

adotson85 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2011, 07:02:12 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on January 19, 2011, 06:15:21 PM

Howd you know? I cant believe i cant search for an EE with Great Faith. I wish we'd get that card figured out.

Agreed. The only ruling I saw was the one I posted from Tim and I did not find any other rulings on Great Faith. Just seems someone switched the Play As to an Errata and left us to assume that is the official ruling. Hopefully we get an official ruling on this. I am in favor for being able to search for an EE with Great Faith. I try to keep the game simple. The card should be played as worded on the card, unless it is found to be broken. Then and only then should an errata be issued. If this is an official errata then why does Split Altar not get an errata?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2011, 07:36:58 PM »

because We dont want it to be able to search for Sin in the Camp. Oh wait, ok- you can search for an evil enhancement with Great Faith and we'll just erratta Sin in the Camp to play like ABomB instead. Oh and Split Alter still doesnt work.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2011, 07:39:46 PM »

what the heck you going to do with just one SitC anyways...Have Fun and Fellowship with it...:

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2011, 07:52:15 PM »

besides, I thought we made cards to stop this kinda thing anyways. I remember when placed cards were laughed at. I Am Grace, Nathan, Two Bears, here's some new ones: Baptism of Jesus, Abraham's Descendant (Di)
I like this pic:

oh and:

Territory Class rocks! Darius Decree FTW.
MVP:

X= what?

crustpope · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2011, 08:20:02 PM »

wait, was there some new way that they have screwed up SitC? did they say that you can only have one copy in play at a time?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2011, 09:35:36 PM »

Let's have a poll:

Should SitC have a new identifier? Only one per territory?

1. yes

or

2. no

Gabe · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2011, 09:58:27 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on January 19, 2011, 09:35:36 PM

Let's have a poll:

Should SitC have a new identifier? Only one per territory?

1. yes

or

2. no

OK, but only people who have faced a T2 SitC deck that can lock you down with 0 cards in hand within the first 2 or 3 turns of the game are allowed to vote. You and I know better than anyone that all those counters you listed don't matter when that happens.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2011, 10:05:11 PM »

Redemption really needs to ban cards, it is just that simple.

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2011, 10:57:30 PM »

Quote from: TheHobbit13 on January 19, 2011, 10:05:11 PM

Redemption really needs to ban cards, it is just that simple.

In certain types of play. It seems a lot of the "broken" stuff/tactics are useless in T1 i.e. they work perfectly normal. Well, I haven't encountered it in T1 so maybe I'm missing something.

-C_S

The Guardian · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2011, 11:05:32 PM »

Quote from: TheHobbit13 on January 19, 2011, 10:05:11 PM

Redemption really needs to ban cards, it is just that simple.

I'd prefer not to ban any cards, but I'm not 100% against the idea if the need truly does arise. For now though, there's no need to ban cards when a simple fix can be made.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2011, 11:21:20 PM »

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wait, was there some new way that they have screwed up SitC? did they say that you can only have one copy in play at a time?

only time will tell...and what about great faith?

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OK, but only people who have faced a T2 SitC deck that can lock you down with 0 cards in hand within the first 2 or 3 turns of the game are allowed to vote. You and I know better than anyone that all those counters you listed don't matter when that happens.

Nazareth is a huge counter. I wonder how many people will play with that card this year?

The Guardian · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2011, 11:28:03 PM »

Like Gabe said, "counters" aren't really counters if you have to draw them in the first turn or two to be able to use them.

crustpope · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2011, 09:28:10 AM »

Quote from: crustpope on January 19, 2011, 08:20:02 PM

wait, was there some new way that they have screwed up SitC? did they say that you can only have one copy in play at a time?

wait...no one answered my question. I have been off the boards since nats. I have found nothing in the offical rule changes thread to indicate this but it seems like people are making assumptions about SitC that I don't know about. Has it been changed/erattaed?

The Guardian · « **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2011, 09:29:48 AM »

Quote from: crustpope on January 20, 2011, 09:28:10 AM

wait...no one answered my question. I have been off the boards since nats. I have found nothing in the offical rule changes thread to indicate this but it seems like people are making assumptions about SitC that I don't know about. Has it been changed/erattaed?

Nothing official yet, but it is a strong possibility.

Red · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2011, 09:36:39 AM »

It doesn't need an errata if one person plays it only besidesv tyler's ANB reset stops it and you can throw in benedictus if needed.

STAMP · « **Reply #19 on:** January 20, 2011, 12:29:24 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on January 19, 2011, 09:58:27 PM

OK, but only people who have faced a T2 SitC deck that can lock you down with 0 cards in hand within the first 2 or 3 turns of the game are allowed to vote. You and I know better than anyone that all those counters you listed don't matter when that happens.

Pfft! I can do that without a single SitC in my deck.

Of course, it's harder to start the combo, and although I can't guarantee it will last the whole game, it generally lasts until I get 7 redeemed souls.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #20 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:42:29 PM »

nice. well, whatever cards you use to generate that game state will have to be given an errata as well.

crustpope · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:49:44 PM »

has anyone erattaed the warriors battle prayer yet? That would shut down Beseiging the city decks. Might as well take a crack at that if we are going to neuter type II you might as well take Sitc, besieging the city and any other combo that you can think of.

STAMP · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2011, 02:07:30 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on January 20, 2011, 01:42:29 PM

nice. well, whatever ~~cards~~ card you use to generate that game state will have to be given an errata as well.

Fixed. Of course, the card has X erratas.

(X = number of Disciples complaining that they didn't get to draw or play a card during their T2 game.)

The Guardian · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2011, 02:17:21 PM »

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Might as well take a crack at that if we are going to neuter type II you might as well take Sitc, besieging the city and any other combo that you can think of.

You don't think nerfing SitC speed decks would be good for T2?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2011, 02:37:14 PM »

Nope, SitC are all thats keeping T2 awesome, cause lets be honest, who isn't sitting waiting for the next awesome combo-deck thats just going to wreck face.

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Author Topic: Great Faith(wo) (Read 8481 times)

TheHobbit13