Author Topic: Golgotha Reloaded (Read 3550 times)

STAMP · « **on:** April 06, 2011, 03:19:22 PM »

Quote from: REG

Golgotha (Di)
Type: Site • Brigade: White • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Anytime during battle, you may place a skull icon card from hand or discard pile on Golgotha: N.T. characters of that brigade cannot be ignored. Return that card to its previous location at end of turn. • Identifiers: Jew, Holds one skull icon card • Verse: Matthew 27:33

Just FYI: I realize that the new errata is not listed anywhere yet, but something that should be kept in mind is that based on the wording I can place my skull icon card on my opponent's Golgotha (just as Idolaters can target any Aaron for capture).

Professoralstad · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2011, 03:32:59 PM »

I guess that is true. Just so long as you have a Golgotha yourself, I don't see why not. Not sure how that would help, but feel free to break the game knowing that it is currently a legal play.

Gabe · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2011, 03:33:49 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on April 06, 2011, 03:19:22 PM

Quote from: REG
Golgotha (Di)
Type: Site • Brigade: White • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Anytime during battle, you may place a skull icon card from hand or discard pile on Golgotha: N.T. characters of that brigade cannot be ignored. Return that card to its previous location at end of turn. • Identifiers: Jew, Holds one skull icon card • Verse: Matthew 27:33

Just FYI: I realize that the new errata is not listed anywhere yet, but something that should be kept in mind is that based on the wording I can place my skull icon card on my opponent's Golgotha (just as Idolaters can target any Aaron for capture).

I agree that the errata for Golgotha needs to be listed in the REG and the errata thread. I'll send my peers a reminder to help accomplish that soon.

STAMP · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2011, 03:59:35 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on April 06, 2011, 03:32:59 PM

I guess that is true. Just so long as you have a Golgotha yourself, I don't see why not. Not sure how that would help, but feel free to break the game knowing that it is currently a legal play.

It won't break the game, but will be nice to shuffle in my skull icon(s) when I force my opponent to RA with a pre-loaded ANB. It was more of an afterthought to recur 1 or 2 more of my cards.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2011, 04:22:26 PM »

Attack Blue, put a Multi Enhancement on their Golgotha, play Job Overcomes, profit.

They attack, put a Multi Enhancement on their Golgotha, block Reheboam and use your Micah or Asher, profit.

Not game-breaking, especially since it depends on your opponent's deck, but fun.

STAMP · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2011, 04:49:54 PM »

Even though I tried to "redirect" attention with my example, it appears the cat is out of the bag.

So much for trying to be the next David Copperfield. I won't quit my day job.

browarod · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:14:14 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on April 06, 2011, 04:22:26 PM

Attack Blue, put a Multi Enhancement on their Golgotha, play Job Overcomes, profit.

They attack, put a Multi Enhancement on their Golgotha, block Reheboam and use your Micah or Asher, profit.

I don't see how either of those examples would work. Your enhancement on an opponent's Golgotha is still your enhancement. They don't magically control it just because you put it in their territory. As such, I don't think it would count as "evil brigades opponent has in play" because you have it in play, not your opponent.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:37:19 PM »

I agree. Placing DSin on my opponent's hero won't add another evil brigade that they have in play.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:28:50 PM »

I've always played it that they do count because of the wording. "Has in play" includes "has in (his territory and his side of battle)." I wouldn't get trigger-happy with "own+control" when the word "your" is not actually present.

browarod · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:08:48 PM »

I've always played it that "has" means controls. When did I say it had anything to do with the "your" rules?

Kor · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:19:00 PM »

Actually wouldn't it be better to put an evil enhancement on your opponents golgatha of a brigade they don't have so you can pre-battle ignore them now that it can only hold one enhancement?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:19:35 PM »

Well, so much for that diversion.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:27:39 PM »

Im thinking that Job Overcomes can only be good with SWS and Self.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:28:11 PM »

If they have CP, Golgotha is protected from the placement, right?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:58:47 AM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on April 06, 2011, 10:28:11 PM

If they have CP, Golgotha is protected from the placement, right?

Yes.

Quote from: Kor on April 06, 2011, 10:19:00 PM

Actually wouldn't it be better to put an evil enhancement on your opponents golgatha of a brigade they don't have so you can pre-battle ignore them now that it can only hold one enhancement?

Yes, just make sure you also put one on yours as well, else they could put their skull icon on your Golgotha...

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2011, 11:41:04 AM »

Since we are discussing combos here lemme try to think of one...place your 10 EE's from discard pile on everyones golgothas in Type 2 multi and play Two Bears to shuffle them all back in your deck b/c their all different brigades or even with Nathan if you keep thier evil off the board and they have to target your enhancement in thier territory.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:32:32 PM »

The trouble with Nathan is that he activates before you can place an EE on Golgatha.

Isildur · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:37:22 PM »

unless if you band him in...

SomeKittens · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:40:34 PM »

Which is almost more trouble than it's worth. The only post-block banding I can think of for Green is Ship to Cyprus. (but I'm no expert on green)

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:53:07 PM »

Nathan is to be used with Reheboam ONLY.

Kor · « **Reply #20 on:** April 07, 2011, 02:20:17 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on April 07, 2011, 10:58:47 AM

Quote from: Kor on April 06, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
Actually wouldn't it be better to put an evil enhancement on your opponents golgatha of a brigade they don't have so you can pre-battle ignore them now that it can only hold one enhancement?

Yes, just make sure you also put one on yours as well, else they could put their skull icon on your Golgotha...

Of course. Oddly enough the attacking player would have priority to place on both though, correct?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #21 on:** April 07, 2011, 02:21:26 PM »

Quote from: Kor on April 07, 2011, 02:20:17 PM

Quote from: Professoralstad on April 07, 2011, 10:58:47 AM

Quote from: Kor on April 06, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
Actually wouldn't it be better to put an evil enhancement on your opponents golgatha of a brigade they don't have so you can pre-battle ignore them now that it can only hold one enhancement?

Yes, just make sure you also put one on yours as well, else they could put their skull icon on your Golgotha...

Of course. Oddly enough the attacking player would have priority to place on both though, correct?

Yes, they would, responding to their own action.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #22 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:15:37 PM »

Teal/Green have always played well together and teal has Joidas Strength...

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Author Topic: Golgotha Reloaded (Read 3550 times)

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