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Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« on: August 18, 2010, 04:51:13 PM »
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Let's say my opponent has The Garden Tomb out and my only EC in play is Philetus, a NT crimson and black EC. (So both crimson and black are being ignored.) I am attacked, and I use Golgotha's ability to place a black skull icon card onto Golgotha, so Black NT ECs, like Philetus, cannot be ignored. Does crimson being ignored still keep Philetus out of battle?

Also, can I use one Golgotha multiple times in the same battle to allow multiple brigades of NT characters to be unignored? Perhaps I want to band Lot's Wife to Emperor Galba; can I put a black and a gray enhancement on a single Golgotha?

Golgotha: "Anytime during battle, you may place a skull icon card from hand or discard pile on Golgotha: N.T. characters of that brigade cannot be ignored.  Return that card to its previous location at end of turn."
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 04:52:32 PM »
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Philetus could not enter battle. Ignoring one brigade keeps multi brigade ECs out of battle.
 EDIT: I'm wrong. I didn't think that through. You could discard Paul with an enhancement that says 'you may discard a red hero' beings he is red. Philetus would gain CBI beings he is black. I'd agree with Korunks, Philetus can't be ignored.
Yes, you can use Golgatha multiple times.


Golgatha was created for combos, not to counter TGT. Stop abusing it >:c.
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 04:54:34 PM »
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actually does golgotha grant the CBIgnored ability to philetus?  If so then I would rule yes, because he is CBIgnored.
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 05:15:37 PM »
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Quote from: Korunks on August 18, 2010, 04:54:34 PM
actually does golgotha grant the CBIgnored ability to philetus?  If so then I would rule yes, because he is CBIgnored.

Correct. Golgotha doesn't say "Black cannot be ignored" it says "characters of that brigade cannot be ignored". Philetus is black, so he cannot be ignored in that situation. Even Self could block assuming he was copying an NT character.
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 05:53:02 PM »
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A quite note.

Lots Wife is not a NT EC.
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 06:08:06 PM »
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Quote from: Ironica on August 18, 2010, 05:53:02 PM
Lots Wife is not a NT EC.

Shhhh. Let's just let this be our little secret.
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 06:19:10 PM »
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Can't you just place a LuG on Golgotha and all your NT ECs are in good shape?

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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2010, 01:10:49 AM »
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Quote from: Daniel TS RED on August 18, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
Can't you just place a LuG on Golgotha and all your NT ECs are in good shape?
Yes, that works. And please do.  My Job Overcomes will be very happy.  :)
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2010, 01:16:27 AM »
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LOL. I managed to drop a Job Overcomes with Self in a Territory this week.  ;D I've wanted to do that for so long.
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2010, 09:08:21 AM »
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Quote from: Bryon on August 19, 2010, 01:10:49 AM
Quote from: Daniel TS RED on August 18, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
Can't you just place a LuG on Golgotha and all your NT ECs are in good shape?
Yes, that works. And please do.  My Job Overcomes will be very happy.  :)

I've lost a lot more games by TGT than Job overcomes, haha, so i'll take my chances ;).

Daniel

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p.s. Wouldn't job overcomes only hurt my actual ECs' colors too?  Not be counted against me for LuG for all colors right?
« Last Edit: August 19, 2010, 09:10:42 AM by Daniel TS RED »
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2010, 09:23:08 AM »
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Job Overcomes says for each Evil Brigade your opponent has in play. It doesn't specify EC's, so LuG would bring your total to 7...
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2010, 09:34:12 AM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on August 19, 2010, 09:23:08 AM
Job Overcomes says for each Evil Brigade your opponent has in play. It doesn't specify EC's, so LuG would bring your total to 7...

Oh so wrong xp
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2010, 02:41:16 PM »
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ouch. question on topic of multiple brigades.
probably never going to happen.
suppose you convert your saul to paul and he gets shuffled.
you draw him again and he is in your hand. your opponent uses something that looks at your hand and counts the good brigades to draw or discard or whatever...
can you flip the card upside down and say it was a saul?

(no this is not to start a morals thread by the way)
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2010, 02:42:37 PM »
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Quote from: The M on August 19, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
ouch. question on topic of multiple brigades.
probably never going to happen.
suppose you convert your saul to paul and he gets shuffled.
you draw him again and he is in your hand. your opponent uses something that looks at your hand and counts the good brigades to draw or discard or whatever...
can you flip the card upside down and say it was a saul?

(no this is not to start a morals thread by the way)

No, He resets to Saul in the deck and remains Saul until re-converted (including in your hand).
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Re: Golgotha and dual-colored characters
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 05:53:15 PM »
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Quote from: Smokey on August 19, 2010, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: The M on August 19, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
ouch. question on topic of multiple brigades.
probably never going to happen.
suppose you convert your saul to paul and he gets shuffled.
you draw him again and he is in your hand. your opponent uses something that looks at your hand and counts the good brigades to draw or discard or whatever...
can you flip the card upside down and say it was a saul?

(no this is not to start a morals thread by the way)

No, He resets to Saul in the deck and remains Saul until re-converted (including in your hand).

Much as I hate it.
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