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If I have Gifts active and my Feast of Trumpets resolves and i draw for my opponent, can I activate another art?

Feast of Trumpets (Pi)
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Teal/Green • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set aside all of your human Heroes for one turn. On return, choose a number from 1 to 4. All players must place that number of cards from hand beneath own draw pile and draw an equal number of cards. • Identifiers: OT, Feast • Verse: Leviticus 23:24 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Rare)

Gifts of the Magi (F)
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Each time an opponent draws a card because of a special ability on a character or enhancement, holder may draw a card. • Play As: When an opponent draws because of an ability on a character or enhancement, you may draw up to an equal number of cards. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Matthew 2:11 • Availability: F Deck

I remember just checking for others.

So, special abilities that activate at the conclusion of a set-aside counter do not activate in the Upkeep Phase? Does the Upkeep Phase end immediately after counters are placed? Is the triggering of an artifact considered an official "use?"

So artifact selection comes *before* set-aside updates. Good to know.

False. You choose the order of all actions you can perform during your prep phase. By choosing to use GotM you've chosen to have it active as your Artifact for the turn.

I have the same basic question as sauce. What if GotM wasn't a may ability?

I just don't really understand why bringing back your set asides means you're choosing to activate Gifts...

You're over complicating this. Bringing back your set-aside doesn't mean you're choosing to activate Gifts. Activating Gifts by using it's optional drawing ability means you're choosing to activate Gifts.

Activating Gifts by using it's optional drawing ability means you're choosing to activate Gifts.

This is not true in any other case. If it's a bottom-up rule, it should not be valid. If it's top-down, it's inconsistent, messy, and counter-intuitive, but if true needs to be in the rules.

It's inconsistent with the definition we have for the prep phase. It says that we can chose to take actions in any order we want. By that definition we should be able to resolve set-asides, then address artifact activation. However, this is countermanded by an odd rule that says if your artifact gets activated by a set-aside resolving, you've been locked into choosing that as your active artifact.

If you want to have a rule that serves no purpose but disallowing a specific combo, you'd do better to bring back the order of prep phase operations (which would also have a lot of other benefits).

Chris, I haven't answered your question be I have no interested in debating hypothetical situations.

Pol, if what you said was true it would be inconsistent. You've made it sound like players have no choice about when they bring back their set-aside characters. The fact that you do choose the order of everything, including when you bring back your set-aside characters is what makes this consistent.

yes.

Also Gabe I do not agree with this ruling. You are triggering Gifts from another card. You are not activating Gifts. If my opponent draws during battle with a card and I draw also, am I activating Gifts? From what I can tell trigger isnt even in the Redemption Terminology yet we use it regularly. Im not sure what the term activate even means as it has always addressed choosing your Artifacts in the game...

Also Gabe I do not agree with this ruling. You are triggering Gifts from another card. You are not activating Gifts. If my opponent draws during battle with a card and I draw also, am I activating Gifts? From what I can tell trigger isnt even in the Redemption Terminology yet we use it regularly. Im not sure what the term activate even means as it has always addressed choosing your Artifacts in the game...

Although I don't like this ruling, I can agree with it and don't see it as being inconsistent. I believe I was the first to ask this question years ago in hopes of taking advantage of the interaction between GotM and Feast of Trumpets. I believe Bryon gave the original ruling.

GotM triggering when your opponent draws a card does not cause you to use it, choosing to activate the optional ability that's triggered is what defines that you "use" it. If you want to activate another Artifact then simply choose not to draw from GotM.

choosing to activate the optional ability that's triggered is what defines that you "use" it.

Read that sentence and tell me that is simple enough to be ok.

It seems silly I can flip it up and then use it, but I can't use it then flip it down.

I think you guys are over-analyzing this.  You can choose to use any one artifact in your artifact pile each turn.  If you bring back guys from Feast of Trumpets, and choose to use GotM to draw some extra cards, then that's your artifact for the turn.  If you choose NOT to use GotM, then you still have the ability to choose a different artifact to use for that turn.