Cactus Game Design Message Boards

Scenario: I have Gates of Samaria and King Omri (special ability unimportant) in territory and 1 Redeemed Soul. My opponent begins a rescue attempt with John (I) and TGT is in his territory.


Question: Can I block with King Omri? Why or why not?


Gates of Samaria: "Protect evil Kings of Israel in your territory from opponents...."


TGT: "<TGT Heroes> ignore each evil brigade that doesn't have at least 2 characters in play."

So protection only protects from things that "target"? Because "opponents" seems to me to mean anything used or caused by the opponent (under which I would include changes to game rules/state as a result of opponents) so unless protect has a limitation I would think Omri could block.

The Guardian is correct. This ruling goes as far back as Priests, when the color guard LS was released and ruled not to allow ignored character to block.

I don't even have to reply and I'm correct. Yes folks, I'm THAT good.

 

The Guardian is correct. This ruling goes as far back as Priests, when the color guard LS was released and ruled not to allow ignored character to block.

I know it IS the rule, lol. I'm just trying to clarify how the abilities interact with each other (or don't, as seems the case here) to come up with that result.

Sorry, Jordan. At least I didn't confuse you with Britta...

In my defense I have a head cold and have confused a number of things in the past couple days.

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 18, 2013, 11:07:30 AM

All protect abilities do is to stop certain abilities (and in the case of protection from discard, game actions) from targeting cards. So if an ability does not target a card, then any protect abilities that target that card do not affect the ability.

I guess I'm just curious as to how an ability can affect something without targeting it.

Because it targets the battlefield, which the card then tries to enter, but the state of the battlefield won't let it.

So the battlefield is sentient now? lol

Only as much as the game is, which keeps track of things like how many times you used holy grail.

Quote from: Drrek on September 18, 2013, 09:00:50 PM

Quote from: browarod on September 18, 2013, 08:56:00 PM

So the battlefield is sentient now? lol

Only as much as the game is, which keeps track of things like how many times you used holy grail.

Yeah, and it keeps track for all copies of that card, so I'd call that targeting.

Ok so even if it worked that way evil kings still wouldn't be able to block, because gates only protects you from opponents, and the opponent wouldn't be targeting the king, the battlefield would be.